Romney Wins New Hampshire By A Double-Digit Margin

[Stargazer]

http://www.politifac...coming-archaic/

I find it rather curious that a candidate who professes belief in the Gospel of Peace is seemingly wedded to the gun as the instrument for exerting American influence throughout the world.

Do you think when Jesus told his disciples they would need to start carrying swords, that he didn't really mean it?

And do you think that Romney's national defense policy should be to discharge all the troops and melt down the ships and weapons to make plowshares out of them?

And the final question: do you lock your door at night, or do you rely upon God to keep the bad people out?

[thesometimesaint]

Stargazer:

Good locks make better neighbors.

No rational person in this country is arguing that we don't need a strong national defense, and will as long as there are people who don't like us. The real question is do we really need to outspend the next 10 countries defense spendings combined?

9-11 occured when 19 men armed with boxcutters overpowered the US military who has spent many Trillions of dollars on national defense.

[LeSellers]

9-11 occured when 19 men armed with boxcutters overpowered the US military who has spent many Trillions of dollars on national defense.

That's a gross overstatement.

The USmerican military was not involved at all in defense against the 11 Sep Muslim atrocity, except long after the fact when aircraft patrols were ordered. (No other airplane hit, or attempted to hit, any other target in USmerica once the Air Force was in the sky.)

The primary (two aircraft were directed to it, where a much earlier Muslim attack was successfully, but ineffectually, undertaken, too) Muslim target was civilian, and secondary targets were, as well. The only "military" target was the Pentagon.

Lehi

[thesometimesaint]

Lehi

My statement is correct. The US has spend many Trillions of dollars to defend against an attack by then Soviet Union now Russia. Sec. Rice expertice wasn't in Saudi Wahabist extremism but the military might of the Soviet Union. NORAD was/is dedicated to detecting a Intercontinental Ballistic Missile attack by the Soviet Union/Russia. NATO was designed to thwart an attack by the Soviet Union not an attack by 19 men armed with only boxcutters.

Ps; More up todate.

http://crooksandliars.com/tina-dupuy/case-cutting-and-running

President Dwight Eisenhower, in his 1963 memoir, noted that in Vietnam “the mass of the population supported the enemy.” This was an insurmountable obstacle (at the time) for the French and an ominous foreshadowing for a full-scale American conflict to come. A war the U.S. would engage in for 20 years through five presidents and an estimated 200,000 dead or wounded American soldiers.

Yet that is where we are with Afghanistan: The population is not on our side. I was recently on a television program with Michael Hastings, a reporter at Rolling Stone on Afghanistan. He said some of the Afghans still think they are fighting the Soviets (a nine year war which ended in 1989).

That is the best indication this war, for us, is unwinnable: We don’t really know who we’re fighting there and they don’t really know who they’re fighting there.

We’d actually have to educate people as to who it is they are trying to kill first…in order to “win their hearts and minds.”

We’ve been in a country called the graveyard of empires for a decade. Last year General David Petraeus announced his COIN or counterinsurgency strategy, integral in Iraq, would be implemented in Afghanistan too. The pillars of a COIN strategy are “security, political and economic.” Or as Petraeus wrote in the field manual “Success in COIN operations requires establishing a legitimate government supported by the people.” Basically, nation building. We have to build a nation that will be stable, legitimate AND support the U.S. How does that happen? More time; more soldiers; more money.

Just one decade is not enough to make little progress in a country whose last successful conqueror was the Mongols…roughly 800 years ago. And whose type of government historically can be best described as tribal.

Front-runner for the Republican nomination Mitt Romney said in his New Hampshire primary victory speech, “He [Obama] doesn’t see the need for overwhelming American military superiority. I will insist on a military so powerful no one would think of challenging it.”

We have the largest navy in the world (twice as big as the second largest) and we’re in a ten-year-long struggle in a landlocked country.

This is a Romney “let them eat cake moment.” Oh we’re not winning with the biggest military in the history of the planet? The solution is to make it bigger

[LeSellers]

My statement is correct. The US has spend many Trillions of dollars to defend against an attack by then Soviet Union now Russia. Sec. Rice expertice wasn't in Saudi Wahabist extremism but the military might of the Soviet Union. NORAD was/is dedicated to detecting a Intercontinental Ballistic Missile attack by the Soviet Union/Russia. NATO was designed to thwart an attack by the Soviet Union not an attack by 19 men armed with only boxcutters.

Your statement was that these 19 Muslims "overpowered the US military". They did not do that.

Lehi

[thesometimesaint]

Lehi:

Don't be obtuse.

[Mark Beesley]

Do you think when Jesus told his disciples they would need to start carrying swords, that he didn't really mean it?

When Christ told His disciples to turn the other cheek, and to love their enemies, do you think He didn't really mean it? When He told Peter that those who live by the sword would die by the sword, was He just joking around?

And do you think that Romney's national defense policy should be to discharge all the troops and melt down the ships and weapons to make plowshares out of them?

No.

And the final question: do you lock your door at night, or do you rely upon God to keep the bad people out?

I trust in God to keep me and my family safe, and I take reasonable precautions, which do not include land mines in the yard, armed patrols, and invasion of neighbors who I think might constitute a thread.