Bill Hamblin Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 I've started a new blog where I will be making occasional observations and explorations relating to the weekly LDS gospel doctrine study schedule. I've put up some general introductory bibliography. If you are interested you can find it at:http://mormonscriptureexplorations.wordpress.com/
Brant Gardner Posted December 16, 2011 Posted December 16, 2011 I'm excited to follow it. Thank you for doing it.
oMtonic Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Sweet!There are some great books listed in the general bibliography, and color me impressed by the amount of material in the 1 Nephi bib!
cdowis Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 (edited) Okey dokey.Just one question from your extensive analysis of the BOM == which BOM prophet was a polygamist? Edited December 17, 2011 by cdowis
Brant Gardner Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 Okey dokey.Just one question from your extensive analysis of the BOM == which BOM prophet was a polygamist?I think there is reasonable evidence to suggest Amulek had more than one wife. I don't know how well he fits "prophet." That will depend on definitions. I would be very interested in the evidence for another.
LeSellers Posted December 17, 2011 Posted December 17, 2011 which BOM prophet was a polygamist?I know of none, but Lehi, father of Nephi, may have had at least two wives, Sariah, mother of Laman, Lemuel, Sam, and Nephi, and another, mother of Jacob and Joseph.I base this on two things, both of which happened on the sea voyage from Bountiful to the Promised Land. Nephi tells us that the two children were in danger because their mother was suffering and could not nurse them.The use of "their mother", rather than "our mother" or "my mother", is odd. Nephi, as vi Jew, didn't speak of women much at all, but he did talk about his mother, and he called her "my mother", but not here. One wonders why.Second, Sariah was aged, right along with Lehi. It seems odd that she would bear children so late in life. Not unheard of, certainly, but odd nonetheless. A secodnm wife for Lehi would have been able to have those sons. It was no moral problem.The Lehiytes in southern Yemen have a tradition of a prophet named Yud (aIr), which means "the Jew". The name evokes Lehi, and, if we assume the Lehites of Jerusalem preached the Gospel and made Semitic converts, it is no problem for Lehi to have taken a bride from among these people.Lehi
cdowis Posted December 18, 2011 Posted December 18, 2011 (edited) I think there is reasonable evidence to suggest Amulek had more than one wife. I don't know how well he fits "prophet." That will depend on definitions. I would be very interested in the evidence for another.I'm very impressed. Edited December 18, 2011 by cdowis
Bill Hamblin Posted December 20, 2011 Author Posted December 20, 2011 (edited) I’ve made a video on the significance of the Title Page of the BOM. It can be watched at .I also made an mp3 of the audio only which you can download here at TalkShoe. You can download the mp3 under the “Past Episodes” second, file “BOM 00 Title Page”.Links and discussion can be found here on my Mormon Scripture blog. Edited December 20, 2011 by Bill Hamblin
Bob Oliverio Posted December 20, 2011 Posted December 20, 2011 Okey dokey.Just one question from your extensive analysis of the BOM == which BOM prophet was a polygamist?Or which BOM prophet was the first to marry in the temple?
Bill Hamblin Posted December 21, 2011 Author Posted December 21, 2011 Here's a link to my materials on "Mormon Scripture Explorations" on the Witnesses to the golden plates, including a video.
Bill Hamblin Posted December 22, 2011 Author Posted December 22, 2011 New material on the translation of the BOM
Bob Oliverio Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 New material on the translation of the BOMThis is cliff hanger stuff. Thanks for the research!
cdowis Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 (edited) Or which BOM prophet was the first to marry in the temple?The temple (like unto Solomon) was built under the direction of Nephi, so it makes sense that he received his temple ordinances, including sealing to his wife. Edited December 22, 2011 by cdowis
cdowis Posted December 22, 2011 Posted December 22, 2011 There is an interesting story from one of the early histories.At night the Indians kept a bonfire going in the middle of the village for light. One group of explorers ran across a village where they were using a glowing stone for light. They offered a great price to the chief for this stone, but his daughter secretly took the stone and threw it in the nearby river rather than giving it to them. She said that the explorers would simply take it away from them.Unfortunately I have misplaced the reference.
Bob Oliverio Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 The temple (like unto Solomon) was built under the direction of Nephi, so it makes sense that he received his temple ordinances, including sealing to his wife.I agree, that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is that the BOM, arguably the restored "fullness" of the gospel, and a historical record of a thousand year history, makes no mention of what could be considered our most significant ordinance.
zeez Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 What an odd question: which dude had more than one wife. It seems there are many other more interesting questions like, which prophet looked like Paul Newman. That guy is hot!
nosmelone Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 I agree, that would make sense. What doesn't make sense is that the BOM, arguably the restored "fullness" of the gospel, and a historical record of a thousand year history, makes no mention of what could be considered our mostsignificant ordinance.4th Nephi 1:11 mentions marriage and promises which I've considered "could" be a reference to temple marriage but I will leave that up to personal interpretation. I personally feel that the Book of Mormon doesn't make mention of temple ordinances because those would be categorized with the "mysteries of God" spoken of in numerous places in the Book of Mormon.
ksfisher Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 I think there is reasonable evidence to suggest Amulek had more than one wife. I don't know how well he fits "prophet." That will depend on definitions. I would be very interested in the evidence for another.If Amulek did indeed have more than one wife, would this indicate that the earlier Nephite prohibition against this practice had been relaxed after several hundred years in the Americas?If this was the case then it is also possible that other prophets in the Book of Mormon has multiple wives, but, being the norm, it was never mentioned.It's interesting how our conception of the gospel is shaped by the culture we live in.
LeSellers Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 If Amulek did indeed have more than one wife, would this indicate that the earlier Nephite prohibition against this practice had been relaxed after several hundred years in the Americas?Amulek was an apostate, living in an apostate city. His (and their) marriage situation may not have had any relationship to the Jacobean prohibition.On the other hand, as I noted in an earlier post, Lehi may have had (at least) one wife in addition to Sariah. That prohibition was not eternal, and, itself, included the possibility that God could command His people.Lehi
ksfisher Posted December 23, 2011 Posted December 23, 2011 Amulek was an apostate, living in an apostate city. His (and their) marriage situation may not have had any relationship to the Jacobean prohibition.On the other hand, as I noted in an earlier post, Lehi may have had (at least) one wife in addition to Sariah. That prohibition was not eternal, and, itself, included the possibility that God could command His people.LehiI'm not sure it's fair to characterize Amulek as an apostate. By his own admission in Alma 10:6 he says that he "was called many times and I did not hear." This sounds like someone to me who is not fully participating in the gospel, not a person in outright apostasy.
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