Depression, Mental Breakdown, Etc., Lack Of Faith In God?

[Calm]

"Please note that this does not necessarily mean that these drugs cause violent behavior. For example, in the case of opioid pain medications like Oxycontin, people with a prior history of violent behavior may seek  drugs in order to sustain an addiction, which they support via predatory crime. In the case of antipsychotics, the drugs may be given in an attempt to reduce violence by people suffering from schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders — so the drugs here might not be causing violence, but could be linked with it because they’re used to try to stop it."

[katherine the great]

ktg:

True and false. We are the most social of animals. In fact we get sick and die without it. But each and every one of us experiences life within our own bodiers and minds.

Well of course. All creatures do (except on a couple episodes of Star Trek...)

[lachrymolotov]

I really liked your entire post, but I'm just quoting a part of it. I'm not a psychologist, but I am an anthropology student, and I think you are bang on correct in your views on social support. I've come to believe that the nuclear family has actually had an adverse affect on the human psyche--especially for women. Nuclear families tend to isolate us too much. I think there are many very lonely people in our society that may have had a much better chance at happiness if they had been raised in a large, "in your face", extended family because the odds of them having a relative they can identify with and pattern their life after are much greater when there are many adults active in the child's everyday life--especially if they have lousy parents. Our species is among the very most social of all animals and we are not designed to live solitary or even near solitary lives.

To do it right takes a proverbial village. It always has and it always will.

"Please note that this does not necessarily mean that these drugs cause violent behavior. For example, in the case of opioid pain medications like Oxycontin, people with a prior history of violent behavior may seek drugs in order to sustain an addiction, which they support via predatory crime. In the case of antipsychotics, the drugs may be given in an attempt to reduce violence by people suffering from schizophrenia and other psychotic disorders — so the drugs here might not be causing violence, but could be linked with it because they’re used to try to stop it."

To that end, it seems they aren't working.

SSRI stories.

[Calm]

As someone who was misdiagnosed for over 20 years with depression when it was a sleep disorder even though I continually informed the doctors I was happy and then given drugs that actually made my disorder worse to the point where these days I can't hold a job and don't drive a car most days, you will not get an argument from me that antidepressants are overprescribed. I would like to see drugs given for primary mental and emotional states even with significant physical symptoms to be treated by specialists...but we didn't have much more success with a child psychiatrist with my daughter as he refused to consider her sleep disorder while treating her anxiety and ended up screwing up her life royally.

Self education seems the best route, but many are not willing to invest the time and effort.

Edited December 15, 2011 by calmoriah

[KevinG]

There are no magic pills or programs. A well diagnosed and prescribed combination of validated therapy techniques and appropriate medicines is the most effective course. Ouick cures are for quacks.

[wenglund]

That sword cuts both ways, buddy.

In this case you are mistakenly projecting, pal.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[lachrymolotov]

As someone who was misdiagnosed for over 20 years with depression when it was a sleep disorder even though I continually informed the doctors I was happy and then given drugs that actually made my disorder worse to the point where these days I can't hold a job and don't drive a car most days, you will not get an argument from me that antidepressants are overprescribed. I would like to see drugs given for primary mental and emotional states even with significant physical symptoms to be treated by specialists...but we didn't have much more success with a child psychiatrist with my daughter as he refused to consider her sleep disorder while treating her anxiety and ended up screwing up her life royally.

Self education seems the best route, but many are not willing to invest the time and effort.

That is truly unfortunate. At least we now have WebMD. I cracked my sternum and tore ligaments snowboarding and I was in severe pain. In Colorado, the doctor told me I pulled a muscle and prescribed an anti-inflammatory. In Denmark, the doctor gave me an x-ray and said everything looked fine. In Scotland, after I had thrown up several meals, they told me it was indigestion. I told each of these doctors that I thought I cracked my sternum and they all acted like that was nearly impossible to do. They all gave different diagnosis and now it has healed poorly and it hurts permanently. I whole-heartedly agree that you need to take matters in your own hands. Unfortunately, individuals are not allowed to prescribe themselves medication when their doctors are wrong and that causes a lot of problems when people turn to the street to self-medicate.

There are no magic pills or programs. A well diagnosed and prescribed combination of validated therapy techniques and appropriate medicines is the most effective course. Ouick cures are for quacks.

Es la verdad.

In this case you are mistakenly projecting, pal.

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

You must be referring to the part where I called you "buddy."

[Nemesis]

Take personal squabbles to pm's and off the main board.

Nemesis

[JDave]

This is a difficult topic for almost all of us. For those who have never suffered from a mental illness, it is very difficult to empathize with what is so deeply foreign to us. It is always an effort of trying to understand by observing mere symptoms of what is going on inside someone else's body.

For those who have dealt with a true clinical mental illness, it can be very difficult to distinguish what is treatable simply by appealing to God in prayer and what also needs medical attention.

I am writing this to appeal to all reading to have more kindness than they might otherwise have. Be kind with yourself and be kind with others. Be sensitive and open to the Spirit, especially when teaching at Church. Sometimes people need you to reach your arm around them and tell them that you love them and are there for them -- much more than they need to hear from you that God cares for them and they should pray to Him and read their scriptures. Many times the knowledge is already there in our heads, we just need the physical manifestation of that love from those whom God has commanded to share His love.

[Kenngo1969]

This is a difficult topic for almost all of us. For those who have never suffered from a mental illness, it is very difficult to empathize with what is so deeply foreign to us. It is always an effort of trying to understand by observing mere symptoms of what is going on inside someone else's body.

For those who have dealt with a true clinical mental illness, it can be very difficult to distinguish what is treatable simply by appealing to God in prayer and what also needs medical attention.

I am writing this to appeal to all reading to have more kindness than they might otherwise have. Be kind with yourself and be kind with others. Be sensitive and open to the Spirit, especially when teaching at Church. Sometimes people need you to reach your arm around them and tell them that you love them and are there for them -- much more than they need to hear from you that God cares for them and they should pray to Him and read their scriptures. Many times the knowledge is already there in our heads, we just need the physical manifestation of that love from those whom God has commanded to share His love.

The above, x 1,000,000,000,000!!!!! (Is that enough of an endorsement ... ? )

[altersteve]

This is a difficult topic for almost all of us. For those who have never suffered from a mental illness, it is very difficult to empathize with what is so deeply foreign to us. It is always an effort of trying to understand by observing mere symptoms of what is going on inside someone else's body.

For those who have dealt with a true clinical mental illness, it can be very difficult to distinguish what is treatable simply by appealing to God in prayer and what also needs medical attention.

I am writing this to appeal to all reading to have more kindness than they might otherwise have. Be kind with yourself and be kind with others. Be sensitive and open to the Spirit, especially when teaching at Church. Sometimes people need you to reach your arm around them and tell them that you love them and are there for them -- much more than they need to hear from you that God cares for them and they should pray to Him and read their scriptures. Many times the knowledge is already there in our heads, we just need the physical manifestation of that love from those whom God has commanded to share His love.

Best post ever written on this entire forum.