busybee Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeGod's law is not that marriage is essential to live with our heavenly Father. The Mormon commandment of marriage is a man-made commandment.Christ did not command us to marry and have children.You seem to have a real hang-up regarding this commandment. Build a bridge and get over it!!! I'm sure if we delved deep enough into other religions we could come up with a few things that we, as LDS, might see as man-made commandments. We're not getting all bent out of shape about it. To each his own. All that is expected of us is to do the best with what we've got!!! If you don't like what we've got feel free to leave. Just stop trying to put words into our mouths. It's becoming very tiresome. Sheeesh!!
busybee Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Those who are married focus more on the things of the world instead of the things of the Lord.Oh please prove this. Please, please, please I BEG YOU!!! CFR!!!!
johnny Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeWE DO NOT BELIEVE IN YOU INTERPRETATION OF THE 3RD AoF, NOR YOUR INTERPRETATION OF THE BOOK OF MORMON, FOR THAT MATTER!!!! (Yes I am shouting!!!What is your interpretation of A/F 3, see belowArticles of Faith "3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.â?Please would you stop being so presumptuous as to tell us what we do and do not believe.Do you believe it says "be saved, by obedience"?You seem to have a real hang-up regarding this commandment.My hang-up is that the Mormon commandment of marriage did not come from Jesus nor his apostles.
johnny Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeThose who are married focus more on the things of the world instead of the things of the Lord.Oh please prove this. Please, please, please I BEG YOU!!! CFR!!!!See below,1Cor.7 ([7] For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that [17] But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches. [20] Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called. [32] But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord: [33] But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife. [34] There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.)
busybee Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeWhat is your interpretation of A/F 3, see belowArticles of Faith "3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.â?Do you believe it says "be saved, by obedience"?My hang-up is that the Mormon commandment of marriage did not come from Jesus nor his apostles.Like I said. finish the sentence. ...by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel. Christ's gospel so Christ's laws. Are you then saying we don't have to obey the commandments?? We'll still receive the highest rewards even if we don't obey the commandments??? Man, i sure wish I'd known that!!! Would have made my life a whole lot easier!!!Prove that the commandment didn't come from Jesus or his apostles. The Bible does not contain all the words of Christ or his apostles. We know that the books contained were compiled by a group of men and we know that some other books were left out. Do you know what was contained in those records? Me either!!
johnny Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeAre you then saying we don't have to obey the commandments??I am saying we don't have to keep the Mormon commandment of marriage.We'll still receive the highest rewards even if we don't obey the commandments???Those who love their enemy receive greater rewards.Prove that the commandment didn't come from Jesus or his apostles.See post #129, it is evident that the apostle Paul does not suggest the marriage is commanded by the Lord.
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeWhat is your interpretation of A/F 3, see belowArticles of Faith "3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel."Do you believe it says "be saved, by obedience"?My hang-up is that the Mormon commandment of marriage did not come from Jesus nor his apostles. Yes it did contrary to your adinfinentum posts to the contrary. Commandments are required for us out of Love for The LORD OF LIFE CHRIST JESUS to stay in the covenant of .Jesus Christs Grace In His Debt/Grace Tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.
busybee Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeI am saying we don't have to keep the Mormon commandment of marriage.Those who love their enemy receive greater rewards.See post #129, it is evident that the apostle Paul does not suggest the marriage is commanded by the Lord.You don't have to keep any commandment you don't want to. We all have our agency to chose what we will and won't do. We'll be rewarded according to those choices. so by all means, stay miserable and single if you want. As for me and my house, we chose to serve the Lord. See we can focus on the things of the Lord as a family. Suggestion is not irrefutable proof.Man my head is so sore form hitting it against this wall. I'm done.
johnny Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 busybeeYou don't have to keep any commandment you don't want to. We all have our agency to chose what we will and won't do. We'll be rewarded according to those choices. so by all means, stay miserable and single if you want.Some are called to marry and some are not. I am married with children and defiantly have a fulness of joy, not misery like you have suggested.As for me and my house, we chose to serve the Lord. See we can focus on the things of the Lord as a family. Suggestion is not irrefutable proof.For others, not marrying is their gift of God and their calling. For some who are unmarried they care for the things of the Lord and it please the Lord.
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 This LDS marriage topic has been beat to the ground, perhaps we should move on. Tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.
coolrok7 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 This LDS marriage topic has been beat to the ground, perhaps we should move on. Tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.You should not only move on but leave it behind as it is not a Biblical requirement to be saved in a Biblical context. It is a Mormon teaching not a Biblical one except for the twisting of what it does teach concerning marriage.
urroner Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 You should not only move on but leave it behind as it is not a Biblical requirement to be saved in a Biblical context. It is a Mormon teaching not a Biblical one except for the twisting of what it does teach concerning marriage.And the Jews would tell you to leave Christianity behind because it's not in their Bible. Your point is?
ebeddoulos Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 ebeddoulosIf Romans 11:6 is sound doctrine then why would Mormon's believe the Mormon doctrine of "saved, after all we can do (saved, by obedience)" (2Nep 25:23; Article of Faith #3)?Pay attention now. Here is another zinger for you. Are you ready. Here it comes:2 Nephi 25:23 and the 3rd Article of Faith are also sound Latter-day Saint doctrine. Faith and works are not incompatible, discordant or in conflict with each other. If that is what you believe, get over it. You are wrong.
coolrok7 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 And the Jews would tell you to leave Christianity behind because it's not in their Bible. Your point is?Jews that don't accept Jesus as their Messiah don't have a leg to stand on when they say that.
urroner Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Jews that don't accept Jesus as their Messiah don't have a leg to stand on when they say that.I was just using your logic in your advice you just gave.
coolrok7 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 I was just using your logic in your advice you just gave.You are incorrectly critiquing what I'm saying.
johnny Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 ebeddoulos2 Nephi 25:23 and the 3rd Article of Faith are also sound Latter-day Saint doctrine.They might be sound LDS doctrine but they are not sound biblical doctrine, biblical doctrine is "by grace are ye saved through faith".Faith and works are not incompatible, discordant or in conflict with each other. If that is what you believe, get over it. You are wrong.Faith and works of the flesh are incompatible. I believe we are not saved by "works of righteousness which we have done".
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 You are incorrectly critiquing what I'm saying. .
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 ebeddoulosThey might be sound LDS doctrine but they are not sound biblical doctrine, biblical doctrine is "by grace are ye saved through faith".Faith and works of the flesh are incompatible. I believe we are not saved by "works of righteousness which we have done". Yes it is biblical Doctrine no matter how many times adinfinentum you say that Johnny Works of the flesh true do not Save but works born out of Love and service to Christ are. Charis through Pistis !. From one of your Catholic comrads - http://members.fortunecity.com/katholicos/saved.htm
coolrok7 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Yes it is biblical Doctrine no matter how many times adinfinentum you say that Johnny Works of the flesh true do not Save but works born out of Love and service to Christ are. Charis through Pistis !. From one of your Catholic comrads - http://members.fortunecity.com/katholicos/saved.htmJohnny is correct here Tanyan, when you agree with Mormonism, in spite of what you're saying here, you become wrong, as they accuse us of being.
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Cat get your finger (tongue) Tanyan?Now why would you as a supposed Born again Lutheran Missouri Synod Evangelical Christian who is a "supposed' disciple of the "Biblical" Jesus let such a thought transfer from your Brain to your fingers to type such a comment ?.You act one way in person to me yet you make a post such as that ? from the confines of the computer where you sit ?, you should be ashamed, if not that is something you will need to deal with. Perhaps you were predestined to do that with GOD working "Through" you. REminds me why I am no longer a Ev, you set a distasteful example for Jesus Christ.Note to moderator, sorry for the above comments but this to me is ..... In His Debt/Grace, Tanyan.
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Johnny is correct here Tanyan, when you agree with Mormonism, in spite of what you're saying here, you become wrong, as they accuse us of being. Sorry you feel that way . Charis through Pistis. In His Debt/Grace,Tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.
coolrok7 Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Sorry you feel that way . Charis through Pistis. In His Debt/Grace,Tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.Why should I feel sorry about the truth. So what do you really think about me in light of the above apology to the moderaters? Be honest! Its not what I feel . It's the way it actually is as oppose to what you might feel. Feelings are subjective, truth isn't.
Tanyan Posted January 1, 2009 Posted January 1, 2009 Why should I feel sorry about the truth. So what do you really think about me in light of the above apology to the moderaters? Be honest! Its not what I feel . It's the way it actually is as oppose to what you might feel. Feelings are subjective, truth isn't. Un unchristian comment above was the truth ? , doing an end around eh ?. tanyan LDS JEDI KNIGHT.
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