Satanic Panic & Happy Halloween 2025

[Calm]

1 hour ago, JVW said:

I don't. How do you know they aren't real? We can play that game if you want.

Online child sexual exploitation and abuse can be reported to Law enforcement and is by many***.  If the victim is identified in the material, there will much more likely be an investigation done.  You mentioned these videos have been around for awhile and I assume they are readily accessible since you were able to see them, but perhaps you have skills I do not know about finding hidden sites for some reason.  If so, it seems like there is a high likelihood they were reported and investigated.  If all there is available to see about it is the accusations and there is no mention of an investigation and what was found, it seems reasonable to assume it’s unlikely to be real based on the number of claims that have been shown to be false.  That doesn’t exclude all possibility of it being real, but it lowers probability a great deal imo.  In these cases default mode should be skepticism rather than acceptance (in other cases of abuse where that stats unfortunately favor the likelihood such as abuse by relatives, the default should be acceptance imo… though of course the claims need to be verified before acted upon with legal methods.

If they are fakes, the purpose of their existence is likely personal gain.  Advertising them, pointing people towards them rewards that behavioir, which increases the likelihood that more will do it, again taking away very needed resources from real cases of actual abuse.  That is why I think we should be cautious about viewing materials that claim satanic abuse is involved.  It may not seem like much, just one more hit on their site, but if we then share our shock and disgust and concern, how many more are likely to be also curious and concerned and go looking…so the numbers grow, encouraging more efforts to bring more money or attention.

I hope I am not conveying I think you are doing something wrong by being interested in the possibility that someone has been abused in a horrific way.  That shows you have compassion and is a good thing.  The person doing wrong imo is the one lying about abuse (both knowingly claiming what is fake or denying actual abuse).  Sometimes good actions have unintended negative consequences, sometimes these trivial consequences can become significant if there are enough people contributing.

Anything online that depicts or claims knowledge of ongoing abuse that looks credible to people needs to be reported imo.  Therefore it’s important if one comes across claims for whatever reason (I know some make it a mission to try and find online victims in order to report them to help stop abuse) to educate oneself in what is credible and what is not.

If it isn’t credible, if it’s vague or unverifiable, you can at least report it to the platform you see it on to be reviewed by them for criminal activity, etc.

If you are unsure, you can call RAINN (1-800-656-4673) or nonemergency numbers of police to get guidance. 

***https://www.dhs.gov/know2protect/how-to-report

report.cybertipline.org

Edited October 28, 2025 by Calm

[Peacefully]

22 hours ago, Calm said:

If I ever manage to regain my ability to sit for a long time, I am going to crash my grandson’s game sometime.  I bought a set back in 76 iirc and still have it, but never found anyone who wanted to play with me because I was too shy to actually ask, lol.

Can we play virtually, lol? 

[The Nehor]

1 hour ago, JVW said:

I'm not sure how exposed the secret combinations were actually, during the time when they were among the people. I honestly don't even know how Mormon or whoever wrote the book of Ether were aware of them. How did Mormon know about the plot to poison the general by degrees? How did Nephi know about the brother who assassinated the chief judge? etc.?

Mormon was a way more hardcore conspiracy theorist than I am. I assume he, or the other authors in the book of Mormon were given visions or revelations from God about it or something. Or maybe they just paid attention to little unproveable bread crumbs like what conspiracy theorists do today, only, since they wrote the book, they could make their theories sound declarative. I don't think we actually have any evidence that the Gadianton Robbers ever existed. Or that there was a Master Mahan who started the first secret combination or whatever. But it is interesting that Mormon says that we'll be able to see evidence of secret combinations in the days before Christ comes. And he may have just meant conspiracies like what Larry Ellison is doing, or what companies do with planned obsolescence, etc. The secret combinations he describes took blood oaths, and he is implying that we'll be able to find them if we look.

They are usually open secrets. Think Mafia type stuff. You may not know about every plot but you know there is corruption going on. The warning in the Book of Mormon isn’t to ferret the combinations out. The warning is not to join them. They also aren’t satanic worshipping. From what we have in scripture the oaths are made in the name of God.

[The Nehor]

2 hours ago, Calm said:

But in the Book of Mormon they are exposed time and time again.

Yeah, they aren’t good at hiding. They often just give off the pretense of respectability.

[Calm]

8 hours ago, JVW said:

In the spirit of Halloween I present a few news articles for your consideration. Both are hearsay and the people who made the comments can no longer be reached for further comment.

https://www.the-sun.com/news/8353587/silvio-berlusconi-obituary-scandals-sex-parties-trials/ The "chemical poisoning" was with radioactive materials.

https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/mariah-carey-sister-alison-lawsuit-172802799.html Lawsuit filed in 2020, Alison was around 60 years old at the time.

 

First article….they had scores of women who were witnesses to depraved behaviour, yet only one woman claimed anything satanic went on.

As far as her sister’s claims in the second link, there is no collaboration of the sister’s claims and given her mental and emotional history, caution should be used.  I am not skeptical of the claim of abuse, just the type and target of her claim.  Sex workers often have a history of abuse, so I don’t see that as unlikely, though nothing indicating the actual predator and how and when it occurred in the info I have seen.

I suspect there are mentally ill people who abuse kids using satanic images, I see it as highly unlikely it’s organized at all.  I base this on I don’t see any benefit for highly functioning intelligent adults to be slaughtering kids in the name of Satan.  What’s the payoff in committing such risky behaviour?  It’s inconsistent with actual known behaviour of competent power people, imo.

Now mentally ill people, sure, but I don’t see them as capable of keeping such behaviour under wraps for very long or being able to function that well in a group (think Charles Manson and his followers).

 

Edited October 29, 2025 by Calm

[Pyreaux]

10 hours ago, JVW said:

The videos that I'm unwilling to share here present a stronger case, or if you take time to go down the Instagram pedo rabbit hole and start seeing really deep, dark, satanic imagery paired with photos of abused children, then inferences can start being made about what's happening behind closed doors during the abuse.

The most important thing I can say right now is, the local authorities and homeland security may have used a program and has your IP address on a long list and at any moment, or maybe years, they may come after you to see if you still have such photos. You still have it, even if you deleted it. Morbid curiosity won't be an excuse. Depending on what you've seen, you'll spend years in federal prison just for seeing it. I don't care how long ago this was but destroy whatever device it's on. If you ever believed in conspiracies, believe this one, we are all being watched.

 

[JVW]

11 hours ago, Pyreaux said:

The most important thing I can say right now is, the local authorities and homeland security may have used a program and has your IP address on a long list and at any moment, or maybe years, they may come after you to see if you still have such photos. You still have it, even if you deleted it. Morbid curiosity won't be an excuse. Depending on what you've seen, you'll spend years in federal prison just for seeing it. I don't care how long ago this was but destroy whatever device it's on. If you ever believed in conspiracies, believe this one, we are all being watched.

 

lol, no, I haven't looked at that kind of stuff or downloaded that kind of stuff. Person of interest is a great show by the way.

[JVW]

19 hours ago, Calm said:

Online child sexual exploitation and abuse can be reported to Law enforcement and is by many***.  If the victim is identified in the material, there will much more likely be an investigation done.  You mentioned these videos have been around for awhile and I assume they are readily accessible since you were able to see them, but perhaps you have skills I do not know about finding hidden sites for some reason.  If so, it seems like there is a high likelihood they were reported and investigated.  If all there is available to see about it is the accusations and there is no mention of an investigation and what was found, it seems reasonable to assume it’s unlikely to be real based on the number of claims that have been shown to be false.  That doesn’t exclude all possibility of it being real, but it lowers probability a great deal imo.  In these cases default mode should be skepticism rather than acceptance (in other cases of abuse where that stats unfortunately favor the likelihood such as abuse by relatives, the default should be acceptance imo… though of course the claims need to be verified before acted upon with legal methods.

If they are fakes, the purpose of their existence is likely personal gain.  Advertising them, pointing people towards them rewards that behavioir, which increases the likelihood that more will do it, again taking away very needed resources from real cases of actual abuse.  That is why I think we should be cautious about viewing materials that claim satanic abuse is involved.  It may not seem like much, just one more hit on their site, but if we then share our shock and disgust and concern, how many more are likely to be also curious and concerned and go looking…so the numbers grow, encouraging more efforts to bring more money or attention.

I hope I am not conveying I think you are doing something wrong by being interested in the possibility that someone has been abused in a horrific way.  That shows you have compassion and is a good thing.  The person doing wrong imo is the one lying about abuse (both knowingly claiming what is fake or denying actual abuse).  Sometimes good actions have unintended negative consequences, sometimes these trivial consequences can become significant if there are enough people contributing.

Anything online that depicts or claims knowledge of ongoing abuse that looks credible to people needs to be reported imo.  Therefore it’s important if one comes across claims for whatever reason (I know some make it a mission to try and find online victims in order to report them to help stop abuse) to educate oneself in what is credible and what is not.

If it isn’t credible, if it’s vague or unverifiable, you can at least report it to the platform you see it on to be reviewed by them for criminal activity, etc.

If you are unsure, you can call RAINN (1-800-656-4673) or nonemergency numbers of police to get guidance. 

***https://www.dhs.gov/know2protect/how-to-report

report.cybertipline.org

In communities and various circles people get plugged in and they use their own language and symbols to talk about things in a very casual way. I'm sure that many of these people are being watched by the FBI. The dark places of the internet aren't popular and are hidden, so there's no motive to shock and gain viewers. Many of these posts have very small number of views and if they gained traction they'd probably be deleted because they don't want attention. The image, out of everything I've seen on instagram, that actually has haunted me the most was, oddly, an image of a dimly lit basement, the kind that you'd see in a snuff film. The basement was clean, but for whatever reason it really spooked me. That image alone, even with the subtle context of abuse, doesn't have anything incriminating about it, but man for some reason it really freaked me out to see it.

[Calm]

1 hour ago, JVW said:

The dark places of the internet aren't popular and are hidden, so there's no motive to shock and gain viewers

Why would people post online if they don’t want people to view their stuff?  Maybe they want a limited audience, but they still want an audience.  Attention of the type desired can be as rewarding or even more rewarding than money.

I can’t remember how you phrased it, but the video you described seemed to be one open to the public. If not, if it was more criminal, needing to be hidden, seems like that is even a better reason to report it.

The nonincriminating video, I am assuming that is not one you would use as evidence for Satanic Ritual Abuse since there was apparently no physical evidence?

Edited October 29, 2025 by Calm

[The Nehor]

27 minutes ago, Calm said:

Why would people post online if they don’t want people to view their stuff?  Maybe they want a limited audience, but they still want an audience.  Attention of the type desired can be as rewarding or even more rewarding than money.

I can’t remember how you phrased it, but the video you described seemed to be one open to the public. If not, if it was more criminal, needing to be hidden, seems like that is even a better reason to report it.

The nonincriminating video, I am assuming that is not one you would use as evidence for Satanic Ritual Abuse since there was apparently no physical evidence?

A lot of the child pornography community works on the darkweb and not on the conventional internet.

[Calm]

3 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

A lot of the child pornography community works on the darkweb and not on the conventional internet.

Yep. Their limited audience is others like them and if I understand correctly, it is a money making operation for many as well as attention getting (wanting to network with others).

[JVW]

26 minutes ago, Calm said:

Why would people post online if they don’t want people to view their stuff?  Maybe they want a limited audience, but they still want an audience.  Attention of the type desired can be as rewarding or even more rewarding than money.

I can’t remember how you phrased it, but the video you described seemed to be one open to the public. If not, if it was more criminal, needing to be hidden, seems like that is even a better reason to report it.

The nonincriminating video, I am assuming that is not one you would use as evidence for Satanic Ritual Abuse since there was apparently no physical evidence?

People post online because they want to communicate with their peers. Here's an example from my own life. Around 20 years ago I believed that I was a Psychic Vampire (psy vamp) and so I plugged myself into the Sanguinarian community. On those forums and websites were people who believed the same as me. All Sanguinarians believe that their life force is leaking out of them and that psy vamps would subconsciously drain the energy of those around them in order to maintain normal life force levels. That a psy vamp could train their powers to be conscious about who they are draining and how much energy they are getting. And that blood vampires had their psychic abilities blocked but that those channels could be opened by drinking blood. Many of the blood vamps had relationships with their local butchers and would buy cow or pigs blood. Many of them had set up human donors, as there were spaces on these sites to sign up as a blood donor for a blood vamp. Some of these people were in relationships. There were all sorts of people. Anyways, this subculture was incredibly niche, there were not many of us who chatted. But any posting we did was for the community and to build bonds within the community. None of us were like street preachers trying to spread the word and gain popularity, we were just trying to fit in and have a good time.

While there are many in the child abuse community who are advocating for normalization, there are many, many more who just want to chat with their friends in the community and share their material and stuff without any attention paid.

The video I posted from King Trout only has one sentence in it about Satanic rituals because at least one of the witnesses mentioned observing them. But the video was primarily about child trafficking and abuse among politicians, chief of police, etc.

One of the videos that I won't share here is a documentary where the filmmaker interviews a pregnant woman, a "fence", and a trafficker who is paying 10k to sign their name as the father on the birth certificate and take the baby. It is available on YouTube last time I checked. The trafficker who was interviewed discussed secret words, tokens, and signs that his organization uses and talked about how the trafficking industry works in Europe.

The other video documents a lot of evidence around pizza gate stuff and is very well put together but it is on bitchute, which from what I can tell is mostly just a place where neo-nazis like to hang out and watch videos. The guy did a 4 part series, and he's done some other work investigating things like Epstein, the TerraMar project that Ghislaine is involved in, or Hollywood trafficking (i.e Isaac Kappy).

There is another video which is an interview with this dutch guy who used to be in international finance, I don't remember his name but I could try and dig it up. He is just chatting about how he rose to his position, what he had to do in his position, why he chose to leave his position (he was invited to participate in a Satanic child sacrifice ritual), and what he alleges to be why he's allowed to still live and how many people are part of that circle. He estimated in the video around 8,000 people worldwide. That is a very, very small number and would make keeping the secrets relatively easy to do. I believe his testimony, but he's just one guy and could be lying. If I find the video I'll post it up here because it's pretty tame and an enjoyable watch.

Cheers!

[Calm]

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Off the top of my head I can think of at least three videos that provide very good evidence but the subject matter is very intense and it's sick and not SFW so I don't think I should share any of it on this forum. I suppose I could just say that if anyone wants to judge what I think are sources that support the idea that there is a secret industry that uses children for terrible reasons and harvests organs and stuff then PM me. One of the videos that comes to my mind was so dark and disturbing I've literally never shared it with anyone else since watching it.

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 I haven't looked at that kind of stuff or downloaded that kind of stuff. 

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Agreed, these specific allegations carry no proof. The videos that I'm unwilling to share here present a stronger case, or if you take time to go down the Instagram pedo rabbit hole and start seeing really deep, dark, satanic imagery paired with photos of abused children, then inferences can start being made about what's happening behind closed doors during the abuse.

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I've tried looking for the articles I've seen over the years (only 1-3 total) of firsthand accounts of people who have experienced or participated in ritual satanic abuse in Utah. But I can't find the sites now. Each site was just a blog post somewhere deep in the internet of a single individual speaking about their personal experience as part of an LDS family that practiced satanic rituals. Some of these accounts were very difficult to read. Based on what I've personally seen and read, I don't think the idea is crazy that there are some members of the church, or even some members in church leadership, who are part of the secret combinations present before Jesus comes

This last quote is the one I have been mostly responding to in sharing these claims, but I am a bit confused about what else you (JVW) have viewed given you dismissed Pyreaux’s caution about viewing videos portraying criminal behavior. What could be so dark and disgusting and abusive, but not criminal?

Edited October 29, 2025 by Calm

[Calm]

46 minutes ago, JVW said:

That is a very, very small number and would make keeping the secrets relatively easy to do.

Just because it’s a very, very small number percentage wise of world population doesn’t mean that it’s a small number to keep a secret.   Even if only 1% had second thoughts or got drunk and let it slip out or became afraid and wanted out and sought help by exposing them, that is 80 witnesses.

Added:  Corrected the math, I even had corrected myself beforehand and still wrote it that way. Makes me a bit concerned about calling insurance companies today, lol.

Edited October 29, 2025 by Calm

[The Nehor]

58 minutes ago, Calm said:

Yep. Their limited audience is others like them and if I understand correctly, it is a money making operation for many as well as attention getting (wanting to network with others).

They will sometimes post material after a specific amount of money is raised. Basically a form of crowdfunding.

54 minutes ago, JVW said:

One of the videos that I won't share here is a documentary where the filmmaker interviews a pregnant woman, a "fence", and a trafficker who is paying 10k to sign their name as the father on the birth certificate and take the baby. It is available on YouTube last time I checked. The trafficker who was interviewed discussed secret words, tokens, and signs that his organization uses and talked about how the trafficking industry works in Europe.

Sounds like sensational fantasies.

54 minutes ago, JVW said:

The other video documents a lot of evidence around pizza gate stuff and is very well put together but it is on bitchute, which from what I can tell is mostly just a place where neo-nazis like to hang out and watch videos. The guy did a 4 part series, and he's done some other work investigating things like Epstein, the TerraMar project that Ghislaine is involved in, or Hollywood trafficking (i.e Isaac Kappy).

Pizzagate? Oh boy. Yeah, this stuff is designed to bring in fascists. Gotta have a reason that we need to purge the undesirables.

54 minutes ago, JVW said:

There is another video which is an interview with this dutch guy who used to be in international finance, I don't remember his name but I could try and dig it up. He is just chatting about how he rose to his position, what he had to do in his position, why he chose to leave his position (he was invited to participate in a Satanic child sacrifice ritual), and what he alleges to be why he's allowed to still live and how many people are part of that circle. He estimated in the video around 8,000 people worldwide. That is a very, very small number and would make keeping the secrets relatively easy to do. I believe his testimony, but he's just one guy and could be lying. If I find the video I'll post it up here because it's pretty tame and an enjoyable watch.

That sounds like someone spreading conspiracy nonsense. Works in international finance (dogwhistle for Jews) and they just randomly invite him to a satanic child sacrifice ritual. Yeah…sure. Also why would you have a satanic child sacrifice? What is the draw? This is not how humans work.

[JVW]

19 hours ago, Calm said:

This last quote is the one I have been mostly responding to in sharing these claims, but I am a bit confused about what else you (JVW) have viewed given you dismissed Pyreaux’s caution about viewing videos portraying criminal behavior. What could be so dark and disgusting and abusive, but not criminal?

Here is something without any images that is "so dark and disgusting and abusive, but not criminal" to view. This is about the child abuse situation in Israel, (it is a current article written this year) it doesn't describe the rituals as "Satanic" but as "religious" with Rabbis participating. https://beeley.substack.com/p/israel-girls-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies

On the images side, seeing images of kids tied up, or with black eyes, or with blood smeared on them and on walls, or even something more abstract like the hanging statue "arch of hysteria" hanging in Tony Podesta's home; a statue depicting how someone looks during their most extreme moment of pain and torture https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/26/arts/0627-BOUR_2.html. Or paintings by MK Ultra survivors. Here's one, for example: https://i0.wp.com/www.winterwatch.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kim-Noble.jpg?resize=600%2C350&ssl=1 There are all sorts of things that are legal to view but are dark and disturbing.

[JVW]

19 hours ago, Calm said:

Just because it’s a very, very small number percentage wise of world population doesn’t mean that it’s a small number to keep a secret.   Even if only 1% had second thoughts or got drunk and let it slip out or became afraid and wanted out and sought help by exposing them, that is 80 witnesses.

Added:  Corrected the math, I even had corrected myself beforehand and still wrote it that way. Makes me a bit concerned about calling insurance companies today, lol.

Yeah, you say that, except, you know, like the primary Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre is dead, you may have heard of the Clinton body count (my favorite victim is the one who hung himself but had a gunshot wound to the chest), the accuser of that Italian PM I mentioned earlier is dead, the girl that didn't recant her testimony in the King case I video linked earlier got sentenced to 15 years in prison and served 5, and her brother is dead, one of the accusers that recanted their testimony is dead. All of that goes without saying that trauma this deep tends to cause Dissociative Identity Disorder - that outcome was actually the desired result of MK Ultra - so the victim's testimonies are easily discounted or viewed as manipulated. 

Epstein is also a great example of this. There was actual evidence, there was actual known stuff, and not one arrest besides Epstein and Ghislaine. 4 known co-conspirators aren't allowed to be charged because of a deal Epstein made in court. Prince Andrew, with the latest allegations, is still living the high life. Again referencing the King video I shared, the day after the chief investigator died in a plane explosion the FBI raided his house to collect any evidence that was there. So yeah, I would say it's pretty easy for them to keep it secret. Nobody wants to know about it. Nobody wants to see it. Everyone wants to believe that it's not true because nobody is that evil. And the people who are doing this are rich enough to buy a country, the State, the government, the police, the courts, etc.

[Pyreaux]

14 minutes ago, JVW said:

Here is something without any images that is "so dark and disgusting and abusive, but not criminal" to view. This is about the child abuse situation in Israel, (it is a current article written this year) it doesn't describe the rituals as "Satanic" but as "religious" with Rabbis participating. https://beeley.substack.com/p/israel-girls-raped-in-ritual-ceremonies

On the images side, seeing images of kids tied up, or with black eyes, or with blood smeared on them and on walls, or even something more abstract like the hanging statue "arch of hysteria" hanging in Tony Podesta's home; a statue depicting how someone looks during their most extreme moment of pain and torture https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes.com/slideshow/2008/06/26/arts/0627-BOUR_2.html. Or paintings by MK Ultra survivors. Here's one, for example: https://i0.wp.com/www.winterwatch.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/04/Kim-Noble.jpg?resize=600%2C350&ssl=1 There are all sorts of things that are legal to view but are dark and disturbing.

There are illegal things on public internets spaces. Benign materials ranging from "Faces of Death" (horrible car accidents, bombs, 9/11 footage of people falling) to Snuff (Torture-Murder) films that go around "public" spaces. If anyone remembers Napster, it was a free Peer2Peer file sharing program for mp3s for free. The next generation of programs like Limewire included videos. There are thousands of people in federal prison right now who were not on any "darkweb", no community, did not pay anything, have no connection what so ever to the victims, abusers or black market. The government after the Patriot Act bought the servers and left the files with known hashtags in their data base available. They use Peer Spectre to watch these files move, they look on your computer claiming your share folder is "public". Even just imagery of children tied up is prosecutable. If it's in a folder with other tied up children, or with adult nudity, or tied people with lude faces, in any way erotic, they can show it and convince a Grand Jury that you enjoy it. They bust non-darkweb communities and public websites but keep it online to catch any fool dumb enough to go there. Any tiny thumbnail of an illegal image you never clicked on is still in your cache folder and is criminal. You don't report it, they'll think it was on purpose. 99 percent of the traffic gets away, but you can be that lottery winner. Just because you saw something on normal internet and nothing happened for months doesn't mean they didn't see it and aren't coming.

[Calm]

3 hours ago, JVW said:

it doesn't describe the rituals as "Satanic" but as "religious"

Satanic Ritual Abuse has a relatively specific meaning for most people, imo.  Applying the term to other situations as evidence that SRA exists because one sees SRA as a broader category than others can lead to misunderstanding.  Best, imo, when it comes to claims of criminal activity to stick to the usual definition to avoid appearing to make false statements and there contribute to the spreading of false ideas.

I think I have conveyed what my concerns are and feel any more is beating the horse too much (dead or alive), so this may be my last post on this subtopic.

[The Nehor]

19 hours ago, JVW said:

Yeah, you say that, except, you know, like the primary Epstein accuser Virginia Giuffre is dead, you may have heard of the Clinton body count (my favorite victim is the one who hung himself but had a gunshot wound to the chest), the accuser of that Italian PM I mentioned earlier is dead, the girl that didn't recant her testimony in the King case I video linked earlier got sentenced to 15 years in prison and served 5, and her brother is dead, one of the accusers that recanted their testimony is dead. All of that goes without saying that trauma this deep tends to cause Dissociative Identity Disorder - that outcome was actually the desired result of MK Ultra - so the victim's testimonies are easily discounted or viewed as manipulated. 

This is a mish mash of various conspiracy theories.

19 hours ago, JVW said:

Epstein is also a great example of this. There was actual evidence, there was actual known stuff, and not one arrest besides Epstein and Ghislaine. 4 known co-conspirators aren't allowed to be charged because of a deal Epstein made in court. Prince Andrew, with the latest allegations, is still living the high life. Again referencing the King video I shared, the day after the chief investigator died in a plane explosion the FBI raided his house to collect any evidence that was there. So yeah, I would say it's pretty easy for them to keep it secret. Nobody wants to know about it. Nobody wants to see it. Everyone wants to believe that it's not true because nobody is that evil. And the people who are doing this are rich enough to buy a country, the State, the government, the police, the courts, etc.

The current administration promised to release the Epstein files. Then they decided not to.

It is not even subtle as to why that is:

 

[JVW]

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

This is a mish mash of various conspiracy theories.

Yeah, that's what we've been discussing in this thread. Satanic Panic was conspiracy. Child trafficking is conspiracy. Secret Combinations are conspiracy. Conspiracy can be hard to prove when witnesses die.

2 hours ago, The Nehor said:

The current administration promised to release the Epstein files. Then they decided not to.

It is not even subtle as to why that is:

Yeah it's so stupid. I hate the government.

[The Nehor]

4 hours ago, JVW said:

Yeah, that's what we've been discussing in this thread. Satanic Panic was conspiracy. Child trafficking is conspiracy. Secret Combinations are conspiracy. Conspiracy can be hard to prove when witnesses die.

A lot of the stuff you are talking about is fantasy conspiracy.

[Chum]

On 10/29/2025 at 4:31 PM, JVW said:

The video I posted from King Trout only has one sentence in it about Satanic rituals because at least one of the witnesses mentioned observing them. ...

One of the videos that I won't share here is a documentary where the filmmaker interviews a pregnant woman, a "fence", and a trafficker who is paying 10k...

The other video documents a lot of evidence around pizza gate stuff and is very well put together but it is on bitchute, which from what I can tell ...

There is another video which is an interview with this dutch guy who used to be in international finance, I don't remember his name ...

I've read this thread a few times. Frequently, you displayed extraordinarily strong feelings for wildly incomplete notions. 
From here, those feelings felt like distress and unhappiness and they flowed from the content you shared in the thread.

You deserve a quiet, happy mind because we all do.
Those videos exist to rob us of that. I have some experience with the spirit that drives them.
Their method is to degrade our judgment by immersing us in caustic ideas. They weave us into fake believe worlds.
No one needs it in their life. I truly hope you don't either.