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Where did I say " just stand by and listen to her scream for help and hope that she manages to survive long enough for the police to show up"?

So you're going to have to just trust the attacker not to use that gun on you even if you backed off?

I've risked my life more than a few times to rescue others. But I've always been thoughtful about going about it. That is why I'm here and the attacker/cause isn't.

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I am giving you the benefit of the doubt. It may not have come across the way the way you meant it. You didn't really mean that the Bishop and his neighbors should not have come to her rescue because they may have been in danger did you?

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Where did I say " just stand by and listen to her scream for help and hope that she manages to survive long enough for the police to show up"?

Then please explain exactly what they should have done in your view step by step.

I am not the only one who has read your comments this way. If you want to persuade people that there is a better way to react, then you need to be clear about what that way is. So far all I understand you suggesting to do is because he did not have a gun, he should have stay indoors away from the attack and called 911.

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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

You obviously don't watch TV. The police always get there in the nick of time. :help:

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When seconds count, the police are only minutes away.

Can you imagine what would have to be done and what our society would be like if police were able to be seconds away? Practically a police car on every corner.....it would be wonderful in some ways and absolutely horrible in others.
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Can you imagine what would have to be done and what our society would be like if police were able to be seconds away? Practically a police car on every corner.....it would be wonderful in some ways and absolutely horrible in others.

And terribly expensive.

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What I want to know (and haven't been able to tell) is just how "MORMON BISHOP" became the headline? How was that important to the story?

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What I want to know (and haven't been able to tell) is just how "MORMON BISHOP" became the headline? How was that important to the story?

Rather simple. News agencies want people to read, watch, and listen to their information. "Mormon bishop wields Samurai sword" makes for a more eye-catching title than "neighbour wields Samurai sword." Of course, anyone wielding swords against burglars, but all the more so if it is someone with an unexpected profession. Much like "nun wields Samurai sword," or "rabbi wields samurai sword."

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But in the original stories, there was no mention of that calling. So how did it become the headline? And if you are saying it is more sensational, then is that news reporting, or news making?

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But in the original stories, there was no mention of that calling. So how did it become the headline? And if you are saying it is more sensational, then is that news reporting, or news making?

The lines between news making and reporting are blurry. Such a headline does not materially distort the reportage of the event, and it is accurate, so of course it'll be emphasised.

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But in the original stories, there was no mention of that calling. So how did it become the headline? And if you are saying it is more sensational, then is that news reporting, or news making?

Its reality

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What I want to know (and haven't been able to tell) is just how "MORMON BISHOP" became the headline? How was that important to the story?

They probably didn't ask the question of him until later and then in an attempt to get more interesting information to flesh out the story, they asked for some personal details coming up with "Mormon Bishop". It is no more important to the story than stories of victims or heros that include what their jobs were, how many family members they have, if they had pets or spend their days running marathons....such things add colour and make the individuals more than a superficial paper doll. As to the choice of using "Mormon Bishop" rather than "Father of Six".....it was likely the unusual combination was seen as the more attention getting.
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Where did I say " just stand by and listen to her scream for help and hope that she manages to survive long enough for the police to show up"?

So you're going to have to just trust the attacker not to use that gun on you even if you backed off?

I've risked my life more than a few times to rescue others. But I've always been thoughtful about going about it. That is why I'm here and the attacker/cause isn't.

It has been several days, yet you haven't taken the opportunity to tell us what would have been the better way to response in a timely manner to help the women...assuming her from your above comment that you think they should have personally helped the woman.

Considering that something similar may come up in our lives, instruction on the safest way to help others seems to me like a good investment of your time....especially since you were invested enough in the topic to criticize how this man made his choice to help his neighbour.

What would have been the thoughtful way to save the woman from more harm since the police weren't able to get there in time to stop the man from escaping even though they were immediately called on learning of the attack?

We know that the man was able to flee the scene without being caught...though he turned himself in later, possibly because he had been made aware that they had his DNA and plate numbers. This means there was a significant amount of time before the police showed up even though called immediately.

Given the amount of time involve in the arrival on the scene by the police, what would be your professional suggestions to minimize danger of both victim and those attempting her rescue.

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