theplains Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 I had a question on this part of the Book of Mormon. 1 Nephi 17:43 - "And now, after all these things, the time has come that they have become wicked, yea, nearly unto ripeness; and I know not but they are at this day about to be destroyed; for I know that the day must surely come that they must be destroyed, save a few only, who shall be led away into captivity." The date in the Book of Mormon is around 592 B.C so it seems to be a reference to the inhabitants of Judah or Jerusalem. How large is the 'few' that would go into Babylonian captivity? Thanks, Jim
RevTestament Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 12 minutes ago, theplains said: I had a question on this part of the Book of Mormon. 1 Nephi 17:43 - "And now, after all these things, the time has come that they have become wicked, yea, nearly unto ripeness; and I know not but they are at this day about to be destroyed; for I know that the day must surely come that they must be destroyed, save a few only, who shall be led away into captivity." The date in the Book of Mormon is around 592 B.C so it seems to be a reference to the inhabitants of Judah or Jerusalem. How large is the 'few' that would go into Babylonian captivity? Thanks, Jim No one really knows. Probably the minority. Don't know either that it is speaking of the Babylonian captivity - could be that the few left are after the seven year's war with Rome. Nevertheless, the Jews left in Babylon did finally give up idolatry or were the minority who didn't practice idolatry.
ksfisher Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 47 minutes ago, theplains said: I had a question on this part of the Book of Mormon. 1 Nephi 17:43 - "And now, after all these things, the time has come that they have become wicked, yea, nearly unto ripeness; and I know not but they are at this day about to be destroyed; for I know that the day must surely come that they must be destroyed, save a few only, who shall be led away into captivity." The date in the Book of Mormon is around 592 B.C so it seems to be a reference to the inhabitants of Judah or Jerusalem. How large is the 'few' that would go into Babylonian captivity? Thanks, Jim This from wikipedia Archaeological excavations and surveys have enabled the population of Judah before the Babylonian destruction to be calculated with a high degree of confidence to have been approximately 75,000. Taking the different biblical numbers of exiles at their highest, 20,000, this would mean that at most 25% of the population had been deported to Babylon, with the remaining 75% staying in Judah.[16]:306 Although Jerusalem was destroyed and depopulated, with large parts of the city remaining in ruins for 150 years, numerous other settlements in Judah continued to be inhabited, with no signs of disruption visible in archaeological studies.[16]:307 https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babylonian_captivity
notHagoth7 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 55 minutes ago, theplains said: I had a question on this part of the Book of Mormon. 1 Nephi 17:43 - "And now, after all these things, the time has come that they have become wicked, yea, nearly unto ripeness; and I know not but they are at this day about to be destroyed; for I know that the day must surely come that they must be destroyed, save a few only, who shall be led away into captivity." The date in the Book of Mormon is around 592 B.C so it seems to be a reference to the inhabitants of Judah or Jerusalem. How large is the 'few' that would go into Babylonian captivity? Thanks, Jim Daniel 1 2 Kings 24 2 Chronicles 36
CV75 Posted September 5, 2016 Posted September 5, 2016 1 hour ago, theplains said: 1 Nephi 17:43 - "And now, after all these things, the time has come that they have become wicked, yea, nearly unto ripeness; and I know not but they are at this day about to be destroyed; for I know that the day must surely come that they must be destroyed, save a few only, who shall be led away into captivity." This means that those who shall be led away into captivity must be destroyed (or lose their national and religious identity), save a few only. Those few only were returned to Jerusalem under Cyrus some 70 years after its destruction.
theplains Posted September 7, 2016 Author Posted September 7, 2016 On 05/09/2016 at 4:02 PM, CV75 said: This means that those who shall be led away into captivity must be destroyed (or lose their national and religious identity), save a few only. So destruction doesn't necessarily mean people dying? Thanks, Jim
CV75 Posted September 7, 2016 Posted September 7, 2016 1 minute ago, theplains said: So destruction doesn't necessarily mean people dying? Thanks, Jim No, because it can mean damaging or ruining in a number of ways on a number of levels, but always irreversible without divine intervention and restoration. They were destroyed as a nation, a people, a covenant, etc. It does not necessarily mean complete annihilation or anathema. For example, the Nephites were destroyed as a Christian civilization but the physical survivors were absorbed into the Lamanites, and there was a remnant of Israel that returned.
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