Brian Stubbs' Changes in Languages from Nephi to Now

[Calm]

Latest talk up (my apologies for the slight delay, I had misremembered the recent Stubbs' thread as discussing this).

http://www.fairmormon.org/perspectives/fair-conferences/2016-fairmormon-conference/changes-languages-nephi-now

[Calm]

"A Native American language family has been identified, appearing to descend from the Nephi-Muleki merger, which answers 3 previous unknowns about Book of Mormon languages. Let me explain that there are some 1500 Native American languages that belong to 170-plus different language families. A language family is a group of related languages descended from the same ancestor language. So each language family is not related to the other 169-plus. That means a huge linguistic variety exists in the Americas and also means that many peoples came here besides Lehi and Mulek..."

Insert tons of technical stuff

"Notice he does not say the language of the Jews, so not Hebrew necessarily, though Lehi undoubtedly could speak Hebrew too. But Lehi’s language consists of the language of the Egyptians and the learning of the Jews in the sense of having learned the scribal craft for reading and writing either Hebrew or Aramaic.

Conclusions

1 Given the sizable amount of Egyptian in UA suggests “the language of the Egyptians” means the language of the Egyptians, not only an Egyptian script.

2 The Lehi-Ishmael Semitic-p was very Aramaic-like, a northern Israeli suspicion.

3 The Mulekite language may have been Hebrew when fleeing Jerusalem, but their probable passage on a Phoenician vessel had them shifting to the dialect of the majority—the Phoenician majority, residually apparent in the Semitic-kw data of UA."

Note:  the above here (and similar efforts on othe threads) are to catch your attention to help motivate you to read the talks, they not meant in any way to summarize or even highlight the texts.

[Robert F. Smith]

That was an impressive presentation by Stubbs.

Based on original research conducted by the late Morris Swadesh and his students (all non-Mormons) in Mexico, we also find Semitic and Egyptian in the grammar and vocabulary of the dominant language family of Oaxaca State in Mexico.  See my “*Sawi-Zaa,” 2016 version 3, online at http://www.scribd.com/doc/56696298/SAWI-ZAA .

For further evidence along those same lines, see papers by the late non-Mormon U.C. Berkeley Professor Mary LeCron Foster, both of which are available in UCB Archives, Bancroft Library MSS 2012/225, series 4, carton 4, folder 26, along with other extensive research notes:

Foster, Mary LeCron, “Old World Language in the Americas, 1,” paper presented April 20, 1992, at the annual meeting of the Association of American Geographers, San Diego, CA, for the George F. Carter honorary session, Pre-Columbian Transoceanic Transfers. 

Foster, Mary LeCron, “Old World Language in the Americas, 2,” paper presented Sept 7-10, 1992, at the annual meeting of the Language Origins Society, Selwyn College, Cambridge University, Cambridge, England. 

[boblloyd91]

I'm excited to see how these studies progress!

[Darren10]

Robert;

That looks like good stuff. Could I repost what you said as is on my facebook and other websites?