ALarson Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 12 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: To go by the photos and systematic lists and speculations of Fawn Brodie, we should by now have come up with a Joseph Smith descendant other than by Emma. We have not. Like you, Fawn made a lot of assumptions. However, she was not a trained historian, and so made manifold mistakes in her bio. We need a fact-based analysis, rather than the wild speculation which we so often get in such matters. So, you do believe that Joseph did not consummate any of his plural marriages? Why would you believe that Joseph lived the principle differently than the other church leaders lived it (even while Joseph was alive)? 1
cdowis Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 13 minutes ago, sheilauk said: Agreed. The story of Adam and Eve is full of the complexities, competing choices and difficulties of life. Nibley had alot to say about Eve, basically saying that she made a deliberate and intelligent choice.
JLHPROF Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 1 hour ago, cdowis said: Nibley had alot to say about Eve, basically saying that she made a deliberate and intelligent choice. I agree with him. We all sat there in the premortal council and reviewed the plan for the whole thing, and the temple tells us the same thing happened on other worlds. Whether Adam and Eve knew what they were doing or not becomes irrelevant since they did exactly what they were meant to.
VideoGameJunkie Posted April 2, 2016 Author Posted April 2, 2016 13 hours ago, sheilauk said: You are living in the present when we have been sold the Disney version of marriage. For centuries people married for practical purposes of care and protection. Many marriages were arranged or brokered. Being unmarried was a huge disadvantage particularly for women. Falling in love wasn't an option, though people grew to love each other. Romeo and Juliet shows how romantic love was viewed and how it was not the usual reason for marriage. People today still have arranged marriages, why not read about those to learn how it can work or can go wrong. And romantic love doesnt sustain marriages, if it did the divorce rate would provably be lower! But I get the impression that you are not interested it other viewpoints. You were convincing me up until the personal attack in your last sentence. No need for that here. This is another inappropriate OP.
thesometimesaint Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 4 hours ago, ALarson said: So, you do believe that Joseph did not consummate any of his plural marriages? Why would you believe that Joseph lived the principle differently than the other church leaders lived it (even while Joseph was alive)? To positively say either way is pure speculation.
Jeanne Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 14 hours ago, Calm said: One never knows. Emmeline Wells found love with her husband as his seventh wife though it took several decades to bloom. Her storyis an interesting one for a number of reasons: https://rsc.byu.edu/archived/supporting-saints-life-stories-nineteenth-century-mormons/12-emmeline-b-wells-romantic Thank you!
sheilauk Posted April 2, 2016 Posted April 2, 2016 3 hours ago, VideoGameJunkie said: You were convincing me up until the personal attack in your last sentence. No need for that here. unlike your comments about Joseph Smith and other polygamists? In any event, I apologise. Would you like to address the points I raised? 2
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