Who is Bill Reel? What are "Mormon Stories"?

[DBMormon]

20 hours ago, cinepro said:

DBMormon was Bill Reel?  I had no idea!

seriously?   wow.  I assumed you did.  dang false assumptions....

[DBMormon]

9 hours ago, canard78 said:

I think he has reelmormon@something as his email address in his signature. 

To the OP, Mormon Discusssion Podcast is Bill's work. He's a down to earth bloke who's podcasting his faith transition. I don't their is any malice or hidden agenda. I think we're just getting a very "real" and raw voice. 

 

I try to be authentic and am at times raw  sometimes too much so

[DBMormon]

I should say the "Dark night of the soul" seems to be past so to those who suggest I am in a Faith crisis that would not be how I describe it.  I may find myself at a distance from orthodoxy and I may even be on the outside of Mormonism at some point if they boot me, but at present I do not see myself in crisis.  My foundation feels relatively solid at present and I am not in loss trying to figure out where I stand.  Cognitive dissonance causes little anguish in my life at present.

By the way I am an open book and welcome questions.

Thanks

Bill Reel

http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/

[Gray]

3 minutes ago, DBMormon said:

I should say the "Dark night of the soul" seems to be past

Because we have to chase him. Because he's the hero Mormonism deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.

Edited March 3, 2016 by Gray

[DBMormon]

11 minutes ago, Gray said:

Because we have to chase him. Because he's the hero Mormonism deserves, but not the one it needs right now, so we'll hunt him. Because he can take it, because he's not a hero. He's a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a Dark Knight.

In some ways we are all Batman

[Tacenda]

I have been painting walls throughout my home and needed podcasts to listen to.  I paid for a subscription for Bill's podcasts.  It cost the small amount of $12.00 for a year.  The first four premium podcasts I listened to were all very faith promoting or faith keeping, in whatever ways that work to help a person stay true to themselves which is the healthiest.  Bill has most assuredly helped people stay in the boat by allowing some freedom of thought to remain.  

[Jeanne]

4 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

I have been painting walls throughout my home and needed podcasts to listen to.  I paid for a subscription for Bill's podcasts.  It cost the small amount of $12.00 for a year.  The first four premium podcasts I listened to were all very faith promoting or faith keeping, in whatever ways that work to help a person stay true to themselves which is the healthiest.  Bill has most assuredly helped people stay in the boat by allowing some freedom of thought to remain.  

Now...for those hard of hearing..I would love it if we could have podcasts with CC;s..s.s video...I miss out on so much!  Bill...can you read me??  Dehlin is hot and cold with the CCs too,  Help me out,,

Tacenda..you do windows and you paint..my address is on a PM!  Does your husband do carpeting???

Edited March 3, 2016 by Jeanne

[Tacenda]

6 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

Now...for those hard of hearing..I would love it if we could have podcasts with CC;s..s.s video...I miss out on so much!  Bill...can you read me??  Dehlin is hot and cold with the CCs too,  Help me out,,

You mean something like this Jeanne?  https://jdfrey.wordpress.com/2006/11/02/podcast-captioning/  

[mtomm]

1 hour ago, DBMormon said:

I should say the "Dark night of the soul" seems to be past so to those who suggest I am in a Faith crisis that would not be how I describe it.  I may find myself at a distance from orthodoxy and I may even be on the outside of Mormonism at some point if they boot me, but at present I do not see myself in crisis.  My foundation feels relatively solid at present and I am not in loss trying to figure out where I stand.  Cognitive dissonance causes little anguish in my life at present.

By the way I am an open book and welcome questions.

Thanks

Bill Reel

http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/

Awesome because this a message I got from my daughter-in-law today. Let me give some background. She is a young convert to the church of about 5 years. She is very close friends with members of the band Ne on Tree s.  Especially close the Tyler G. She has always struggled with the church's treatment of gays. She has no cultural background or life experiences with it except that as a non-member who doesn't see being gay as a problem.  She and my son are expecting my first grandbaby this year.  Here is what she says to me today. I'm pretty much out of good answers. I want her and my son to be in church and I certainly want my grandchildren there, too. It's making me very sad. Any good answers I can give her besides "the prophets have spoken, get on board" would be appreciated.

 

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 I mean they can't honestly expect gay people to want to continue to be part of the church after that. I struggle with it so much, I can't imagine what someone like Tyler, who was raised in it and served a mission, could be going through.

One of my biggest problems is I feel so awful being "associated" or part of a group that makes people feel that way.

It's not so much about me anymore, I'm trying to think of the best way to raise our kids now. I think the church has some good morals and standards, but at the same time, I don't want them to be judgmental or think that people that are different are lesser. I also think I was raised okay without the church, I think my mom taught me morals and standards and how to treat others. 

 

[flameburns623]

2 hours ago, DBMormon said:

I should say the "Dark night of the soul" seems to be past so to those who suggest I am in a Faith crisis that would not be how I describe it.  I may find myself at a distance from orthodoxy and I may even be on the outside of Mormonism at some point if they boot me, but at present I do not see myself in crisis.  My foundation feels relatively solid at present and I am not in loss trying to figure out where I stand.  Cognitive dissonance causes little anguish in my life at present.

By the way I am an open book and welcome questions.

Thanks

Bill Reel

http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/

Welcome! Thanks for joining the thread!

[DBMormon]

3 hours ago, mtomm said:

Awesome because this a message I got from my daughter-in-law today. Let me give some background. She is a young convert to the church of about 5 years. She is very close friends with members of the band Ne on Tree s.  Especially close the Tyler G. She has always struggled with the church's treatment of gays. She has no cultural background or life experiences with it except that as a non-member who doesn't see being gay as a problem.  She and my son are expecting my first grandbaby this year.  Here is what she says to me today. I'm pretty much out of good answers. I want her and my son to be in church and I certainly want my grandchildren there, too. It's making me very sad. Any good answers I can give her besides "the prophets have spoken, get on board" would be appreciated.

 

 

What would I say? Hmmmm

1. We have as a Church gotten it very wrong before. Prophets have taught false Doctrine, all 15 men have been unified on false Doctrine, and later leaders have admitted past teachings to have been false.

 

1. The idea of prophets is way more nuanced than we teach. These men are flawed. The Church may get revelation from “time to time” but these men mostly are doing the best they can with their own prejudiced and limited understanding. They get it right often but on social issues they seem inhibited by the age those leaders grew up in.

 

1. Read the biology and science of homosexuality, transgendered, and intersex people. This gets messy and once one does their homework, one has little choice then to acknowledge it is not black and white in terms of MALE and FEMALE, GAY or STRAIGHT, etc...

great podcast to listen to - http://mormonmatters.org/2015/11/24/310-311-making-sense-of-the-research-on-homosexuality-parts-3-4-social-and-psychological-factors/

 

1. Our current theology does not deal with this nuance. We simply have little room in the plan of salvation for those who do not fit well into our black and white thinking. Something has to give. 10 years, 20 years, 50 years..... hold on a revelation is coming

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Podcast showing how they could work this out - http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2015/12/further-light-and-knowledge/

 

You simply have to make room for these guys to be really screwing this up and yet see God as willing to stay clear until these men are willing to be humble and ask the right questions willing to let go of their prejudices. President Kimball acknowledged this very process - https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/BYUStudies/article/viewFile/7325/6974

 

 

Edited March 3, 2016 by DBMormon

[mtomm]

19 minutes ago, DBMormon said:

What would I say? Hmmmm

1. We have as a Church gotten it very wrong before. Prophets have taught false Doctrine, all 15 men have been unified on false Doctrine, and later leaders have admitted past teachings to have been false.

1. The idea of prophets is way more nuanced than we teach. These men are flawed. The Church may get revelation from “time to time” but these men mostly are doing the best they can with their own prejudiced and limited understanding. They get it right often but on social issues they seem inhibited by the age those leaders grew up in.

1. Read the biology and science of homosexuality, transgendered, and intersex people. This gets messy and once one does their homework, one has little choice then to acknowledge it is not black and white in terms of MALE and FEMALE, GAY or STRAIGHT, etc...

great podcast to listen to - http://mormonmatters.org/2015/11/24/310-311-making-sense-of-the-research-on-homosexuality-parts-3-4-social-and-psychological-factors/

1. Our current theology does not deal with this nuance. We simply have little room in the plan of salvation for those who do not fit well into our black and white thinking. Something has to give. 10 years, 20 years, 50 years..... hold on a revelation is coming

   1. Podcast showing how they could work this out - http://www.mormondiscussionpodcast.org/2015/12/further-light-and-knowledge/

You simply have to make room for these guys to be really screwing this up and yet see God as willing to stay clear until these men are willing to be humble and ask the right questions willing to let go of their prejudices. President Kimball acknowledged this very process - https://ojs.lib.byu.edu/spc/index.php/BYUStudies/article/viewFile/7325/6974

I just finished your podcast in response to Elder Bednar and I sent her the link. I will also add these. Thank you. 

 

[consiglieri]

5 hours ago, DBMormon said:

In some ways we are all Batman

Some of us are Chief O'Hara.

[consiglieri]

I also want to add how much my wife enjoys listening to your podcasts, Bill.  (Me, too!)

You are articulate and well-informed.

You showed this in spades in your recent podcast about Joseph Smith and money digging and why it is the Church doesn't want to "go there" with the seer stone in the hat because of all the associations that brings up.

My personal favorite was your "bad days" podcast from over a year ago.

That mirrored exactly how my wife and I feel.

There is something therapeutic in hearing a knowledgeable and faithful Mormon actually dealing with the difficult issues rather than trying to brush them aside with specious answers, straw men, and the always popular gambit of placing the guilt on the person having the problems; like so many on this board and FAIRMormon do.

You are a breath of fresh air.

Keep up the great work!!!

[DBMormon]

20 minutes ago, consiglieri said:

I also want to add how much my wife enjoys listening to your podcasts, Bill.  (Me, too!)

You are articulate and well-informed.

You showed this in spades in your recent podcast about Joseph Smith and money digging and why it is the Church doesn't want to "go there" with the seer stone in the hat because of all the associations that brings up.

My personal favorite was your "bad days" podcast from over a year ago.

That mirrored exactly how my wife and I feel.

There is something therapeutic in hearing a knowledgeable and faithful Mormon actually dealing with the difficult issues rather than trying to brush them aside with specious answers, straw men, and the always popular gambit of placing the guilt on the person having the problems; like so many on this board and FAIRMormon do.

You are a breath of fresh air.

Keep up the great work!!!

thank you my friend

 

[flameburns623]

25 minutes ago, consiglieri said:

I also want to add how much my wife enjoys listening to your podcasts, Bill.  (Me, too!)

You are articulate and well-informed.

You showed this in spades in your recent podcast about Joseph Smith and money digging and why it is the Church doesn't want to "go there" with the seer stone in the hat because of all the associations that brings up.

My personal favorite was your "bad days" podcast from over a year ago.

That mirrored exactly how my wife and I feel.

There is something therapeutic in hearing a knowledgeable and faithful Mormon actually dealing with the difficult issues rather than trying to brush them aside with specious answers, straw men, and the always popular gambit of placing the guilt on the person having the problems; like so many on this board and FAIRMormon do.

You are a breath of fresh air.

Keep up the great work!!!

I'd rep you but I cannot. Thumb's Up!

[DBMormon]

by the way in answer to the thread title

 

 My name is Bill Reel.  I joined the Church as a teenager and from day one I took the Church very seriously.  I strived to be a good member of the Church and wanting to know all there was to know about my new faith, I read every Mormon History or Doctrinal book I could get my hands on.   I encountered critical thinking early on and weaved my way through difficult issues in the Church. Then while serving as a Bishop in my early 30’s I hit a major crisis of faith.  I woke one day  and nothing fit anymore.  I almost left the Church and my faith community.  Instead, I dove further into the issues, opened myself up to changing my beliefs, assumptions, and expectations….. what I found was a renewed faith.  A real Faith.  A beautiful and expansive faith.  I created this podcast to help others like you to find their way to the other side.  My main piece of advice is to stop forcing the facts to fit your assumptions and instead allow your assumptions to change.  Many of us were taught a MORMONISM that simply is unrealistic, too simplistic, and too black and white.  Open up and take a deep look at the real Mormonism, and hopefully like me, you will find the beauty that lies underneath!

Podcast episodes or articles featuring my story!

http://mormonstories.org/mormon-bishop-bill-reel/

http://www.theculturalhallpodcast.com/2014/02/bill-reelfair-mormon-ep-116-the-cultural-hall/

http://leadinglds.com/my-blog/2014/04/helping-others-through-a-faith-crisis-understanding-the-leaders-role.html

http://exploringsainthood.org/030-bill-reel-mormon-discussion/

http://www.radiogoldproductions.com/thegoodword/bill-reel-interview-episode-150/

http://reasonstostaylds.blogspot.com/2014/01/23-bill-reel.html

http://www.americanfreethought.com/wordpress/2014/12/13/podcast-215-bill-reel-mormon-discussion-podcast/

http://leadinglds.com/my-blog/2014/05/how-i-lead-bishop-bill-reel.html

http://leadinglds.com/my-blog/2014/11/tithing-settlement-help-for-bishoprics.html

http://www.anothermormonpodcast.com/episode-26-interviewing-bill-reel/

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If I can be of any help to any of you, please don’t hesitate to email me – ReelMormon At Gmail Dot Com

[Ham Clam]

On 3/3/2016 at 0:01 AM, VideoGameJunkie said:

You don't know Bill Nye the Science Guy? He had a science TV show in the 1990s and now he goes around debating creationists with science. He recently tried to debunk the story of Noahs Ark.

I watched some of his stuff while in science classes.
 

 

[Tacenda]

17 minutes ago, Ham Clam said:

I watched some of his stuff while in science classes.
 

 

I've seen many, the teachers show these videos for science in grade school.  And the little tune that begins each video, the kids all know by heart and sing it for all it's worth.