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Lunch With Margaret Barker

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I had the opportunity to have lunch with Margaret Barker today. We ate at the "Bird and Baby" (= â??Eagle and Childâ? for the non-cognoscenti) pub in Oxford, where the Inklings (C S Lewis, Tolkein, etc.) used to meet. She graciously permitted me to video our lunch conversation, and I have nearly two hours of material.

Time permitting, Iâ??ll work through it in the next few days (weeks?), and post them on YouTube. (It will end up being a number of different videos, since YouTube has a ten minute maximum length.)

Here is the first one:

Calm Grand Master

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Very nice!

add-on: I love the comment about being famous for not ironing the back of her husband's shirts.

Times have changed. One of the things I told my husband when we got married was that I wouldn't be ironing any of his shirts for him having had more than enough of that with my dad's shirts growing up.

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Fantastic! I have recently been trying to dig into her wonderful works. Thanks Bill.

James

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Thank you Rabbi Hamblin. Also, it's ok if you smile a bit (I don't think G-d would mind).

I am physiologically unable to smile. It is a genetic defect. I suppose you mock cripples too.

:P

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I am grateful that you invited us into your luncheon with Margaret, and finally enabled several of us to put a face and personality with the name we have respected over the years (of course I am speaking here of Margaret, though I could equally be speaking of you). :P

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

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They had to attach wires to the back of my head to pull the corners of my mouth up for that photo. Here is my mouth in a completely relaxed state.

Brilliant.

:P

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Here's part 2 of the Barker lunch.

That's all for tonight. More tomorrow on her new book Christmas: the Original Story, which discusses the temple context of the nativity narratives. (due out on 23 Oct)

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Thank you Rabbi Hamblin. Also, it's ok if you smile a bit (I don't think G-d would mind).

Just watch the video upside down. It's all good.

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She's a fascinating person, and I love listening to her lectures. I've always been curious, though, barring history, how does she feel about the church? Does she ever offer any thoughts along those lines? Listening to her, she sounds like she'd be an exceptional Mormon. As a former Methodist myself, it's not all that difficult hauling down old colors and hoisting aloft some new.

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Love the beard. How I hate working on BYU's campus over the summer.

Margaret Barker had a beard?!?!? Oh, my. :P

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Very cool Bill. Thanks for sharing this.

At some point, I think it would be fun to bring together LDS scholars who have been actively exploring the implications of her work. Solicit papers exploring further implications. Have a conference. Do a book. Brant has some very good things in his Second Witness. Alyson's two essays break new ground.

I just saw the proofs for the book edited by Terryl Givens and Reid Neilson on Resassessing Joseph Smith, which has an essay by Margaret Barker and yours truely on Seeking the Face of the Lord: Joseph Smith and the First Temple Tradition.

As it was going through the Oxford peer review, one of the comments was that our contribution read like two separate papers. Margaret commented back that that was the point. It was all about how the independent views converged so nicely.

Kevin Christensen

Pittsburgh, PA

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She's a fascinating person, and I love listening to her lectures. I've always been curious, though, barring history, how does she feel about the church? Does she ever offer any thoughts along those lines? Listening to her, she sounds like she'd be an exceptional Mormon. As a former Methodist myself, it's not all that difficult hauling down old colors and hoisting aloft some new.

If she converted to Mormonism we would no longer be able to use her work, as it would obviously be biased and untrustworthy. :P

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Very cool Bill. Thanks for sharing this.

At some point, I think it would be fun to bring together LDS scholars who have been actively exploring the implications of her work. Solicit papers exploring further implications. Have a conference. Do a book. Brant has some very good things in his Second Witness. Alyson's two essays break new ground.

I just saw the proofs for the book edited by Terryl Givens and Reid Neilson on Resassessing Joseph Smith, which has an essay by Margaret Barker and yours truely on Seeking the Face of the Lord: Joseph Smith and the First Temple Tradition.

As it was going through the Oxford peer review, one of the comments was that our contribution read like two separate papers. Margaret commented back that that was the point. It was all about how the independent views converged so nicely.

Kevin Christensen

Pittsburgh, PA

That's an excellent idea!

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