Duncan

I wonder how the national guard will find being in Orem, Utah? hmm

I remember reading that during the "reformation" period of the Church in Utah a brother, was married to several women. He got divorced and said that he was "obedient but not very wise"

Keep in mind they were talking about the "those scriptures which have been written by them of old" V12, so most likely they were talking about the Brass Plates, which doesn't burn and the fact that Zenos and Zenock was quoted to them and they were asked if they remember those verses, V3. it would indicate they were suppose to know who those Prophets were and what they said. it's possible someone, who was literate, read it to them on a regular basis, just like we do in our church services, people reading out loud various verses

Elder Renlund said in GenCon sometime ago about we don't know much about Heavenly Mother(s)

but until you know something concrete, it's exactly that, imaginary and besides how do you know what you know? because it could be hearsay

you're implying they are doing something wrong, how do we know that? Discipline for what? It isn't the Bishopric's job to sniff around into people's lives, if the couple came to the Bishop and said whatever then that's fine. My sense is a Bishop would or should be on the receiving end of confessions, not going out and finding out problems, besides it isn't repentance if you got found out anyways, humbling yourself is different from being humbled

that doesn't make any sense it's been publicly available long enough for you to know that it wasn't true it's a massive leap of logic to talk about what the church archives does to not criticizing the leaders of the church

Here you go "Revelation about the new and everlasting covenant as written by John Taylor. File includes John Taylor's 1886 handwritten copy and a handwritten copy by a Taylor family member. Also includes an 18 July 1933 memorandum from J. Reuben Clark Jr. about the provenance of the copy in John Taylor's handwriting, a 1909 typescript copy of the revelation by Joseph Fielding Smith, and additional typescript copies. Also available in electronic format." perhaps more is coming https://catalog.churchofjesuschrist.org/assets/3aec2ea6-fdeb-4866-9529-47e27f9cd3b9/0/0?lang=eng have you ever used an archives before or know how they work or?

says who? I find it so odd that you say the church hid it and lied about it for years yet you magically knew "long ago" that this "prophesy" was not true let me introduce you to something called logic people have been writing about this for decades and decades, yet you think this is "silence"? How is that even possible?

"they" meaning the archives, not individuals in the church and out, who used it in various publications for decades and decades now, so no the church did not hide and lie about it-if they did we wouldn't have heard about it or know anything about it.

until his father died, Joseph Fielding Smith, used to go by Joseph F. Smith Jr.

so you think that this 1886 revelation was just discovered? or you have proof that the leaders of the Church covered it up? People have been talking about it since it happened. Copies of it have been floating around forever