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SeekingUnderstanding

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  1. I’d say that this idea is relatively new. We have contemporaneous first hand accounts of Joseph showing off Abraham’s hand writing on the papyrus. Physical proof of the divine. We have them finding the bones of Zelph the white Lamanite. Physical proof of Book of Mormon peoples. We have the prophet Spencer Kimball declaring that the indigenous people that convert to the gospel were shedding their dark skin. Physical proof of the Book of Mormon. All through history until the modern era God was willing to show physical proof. It’s only with with modern skeptical scientific lens when almost all these claims fall apart that the faithful have retreated to claims like the above.
  2. I feel like there is a subtle difference in that by “asking” you are accepting that it’s ultimately not your call. Resigning is the equivalent of “I quit”.
  3. Resign: “voluntarily leave a job or other position.” Hope this helps
  4. Which law of chastity violations require a church discipline and why?
  5. Um newsflash, they are married. You need to stop confusing facts with your feelings.
  6. Such as? Not all violations of the law of chastity require church discipline. What is the equivalent heterosexual behavior/ violation to married consensual sex between partners?
  7. Everyone knows only true Scottsmen hate the English.
  8. I'm just curious about how it went down. Dan definitely goes scorched earth. Everytime I've seen it, it is against those leveraging scripture to marginalize and oppress already marginalized and oppressed groups. Curious if that is the case here.
  9. As one likely source of his frustration, I hope he enjoys life board free. The board is certainly quieter and lower drama in his absence as he was very active and voiced strong opinions on controversial topics.
  10. I remember Scott saying he was leaving. I don’t recall Smac saying as much but maybe over on social hall?
  11. Spam is nice, but I really wish I knew how to get ahold of Delta Airlines.
  12. This is a fine attitude to have but you are facing the wrong way in my opinion. Sure they “can” rise above but why should they? Why are you focused on them rising above the lack of love rather than the careless individual not showing love? Especially when it becomes a repeated pattern?
  13. I do think this juxtaposition is revealing. OP is “gifting” religious art and testimony for their kids to take to their homes but draws a firm line at alcohol consumption in their own home??
  14. It's fine if you want to believe this. But this belief will have consequences in your relationships. Assuming bad faith on those you interact with, especially those close to you is a quick way to end said relationships.
  15. As a non-believer, can I ask why you thought this would be an appropriate gift? Or why you are calling it a gift? My parents (who are as devout as its possible to be), watched my kids while my wife and I went to Spain for business / pleasure. We bought them a hand made expensive nativity music box as a gift and thank you. I want nothing to do with Christianity, but they love it. So I bought it and gave it to them. As a gift. My parents on the other hand routinely gave me nativity ornaments, Christian children books etc (I'm using the past tense here because I'm currently taking a break from them!). Are these "gifts" or not so subtle attempts to fulfill their missionary obligations as taught by your church? Are they attempting to manipulate me (I'm sure they would say hoping that the spirit moves me)? I sure think so. A gift should be something that the giver wants and appreciates. Not an attempt to manipulate.
  16. This kind of begs the question, because as near as I can tell Christian nationalism has nothing to do with belief in and service of the things Christ taught. Quite the opposite.
  17. That was interesting. Thanks!
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