Popular Post smac97 Posted June 14, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 14, 2024 The Church News: Why the Kirtland Temple and other historic properties are so valuable to the Church Quote On March 5, in a joint statement, Community of Christ and The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints announced the transfer of the Kirtland Temple, as well as other historic buildings and artifacts to the Church of Jesus Christ for $192.5 million. While most Church members rejoiced, many inside and out of the Church may have wondered why the Church would ever spend such a large sum of money on anything other than humanitarian aid. That is a fair question. Quote Elder Kyle S. McKay, a General Authority Seventy who serves as Church historian and recorder, addressed the topic in an opening keynote lecture before a crowd of hundreds gathered at the 59th annual Mormon History Association conference in northeastern Ohio on Thursday, June 13. “I was not a decision-maker for this Church,” he said. “But I feel I can speak somewhat of the transaction from the perspective of the Church of Jesus Christ to at least give you partial understanding of why the Church would spend such a large sum of money for the Kirtland Temple and other real and personal property.” ... Elder McKay began with a story about two women — Nancy Cervi, a Community of Christ pastor, and Sister Sue Grow, who was serving as a Latter-day Saint missionary in Kirtland when the transaction was announced. A few days after the announcement, Elder McKay visited the Kirtland Temple and neighboring visitors’ center, where he encountered Sister Grow and Cervi. Cervi was in the process of removing items at the center. She was gracious but seemed uncomfortable. That changed when Sister Grow embraced and wept with her. “I was deeply moved and taught,” Elder McKay said. “Here was Sue Grow with a historic reason to rejoice, setting it aside so that she could mourn with a dear friend whose cause to mourn was on some level Sue’s cause to rejoice. It was beautiful, even sacred.” Two weeks later, when the temple reopened for tours, Cervi participated in a tour for local civic and Church leaders. “Not only did she attend the tour, she kindly offered her expertise as an on-the-spot clarifier of facts and questions put to her about the temple,” Elder McKay said. The two women exemplified mutual respect and Christlike empathy, the Church historian said. “I continue to marvel at these two women,” he said. “I aspire to the attributes of these two women and invite you to become like Nancy Cervi and Sue Grow, promising and testifying that in so becoming, you will become like Jesus.” What a nice story. I am glad he shared it. Quote Returning to the question of why the Church would pay such an “eye-popping amount” for the Kirtland Temple and other properties, Elder McKay focused on the sacred events of one day — April 3, 1836. “I cannot think of a single day during the ongoing Restoration when there was more restored than on April 3, 1836,” he said. On that date, Joseph Smith and Oliver Cowdery were visited by Jesus Christ and experienced visions where priesthood keys were conveyed by ancient prophets Moses, Elias and Elijah. The keys of the gathering of Israel: Offering the gospel of Jesus Christ to God’s children on both sides of the veil who have not made crucial covenants with God nor received their essential ordinances. The dispensation of the gospel of Abraham: Restoring covenants and blessings promised to Abraham, including the promise of eternal life and exaltation. The sealing power: Enabling the eternal binding of relationships and the legitimacy of priesthood ordinances, ensuring they are recognized in the hereafter. Elder McKay summarized the three keys with words from Church President Russell M. Nelson, who taught: “These keys authorized Joseph Smith — and all succeeding presidents of the Lord’s Church — to gather Israel on both sides of the veil, to bless all covenant children with the blessings of Abraham, to place a ratifying seal on priesthood ordinances and covenants, and to seal families eternally. The power of these priesthood keys is infinite and breathtaking.” The historical/religious significance of the temple is hard to overstate. Quote The answer to why the Church spent the money is rooted in Latter-day Saint doctrine, Elder McKay said. “There is little we do in this Church of lasting significance that is not done under the authority of the keys restored on April 3, 1836, in the Kirtland Temple,” he said. “Please understand, the Church did not consider itself deficient or incomplete without these historic properties, but these things do provide a magnificent reminder of God’s dealings with His people; they are sacred evidence of the greatest Restoration ever.” In a 2003 Mormon History Association conference, Kim L. Loving, an attorney and Community of Christ leader, presented a paper on ownership of the Kirtland Temple. The premise of his article was that the quiet-title action by the Reorganized Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, the former name of Community of Christ, for the Kirtland Temple in 1879-80 was primarily an effort to establish the legitimacy of the reorganization as the true continuation of the original Church. Loving contended that the Kirtland Temple “was treasured, not as a sacred space in the church’s quest for transforming the world, but because the very fact of its possession asserted the church’s legitimacy as the true heir of the Restoration.” After Loving’s death in 2004, an expanded version of his paper was published, advocating for the temple to become a space for spiritual transformation. The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints hopes to realize Loving’s vision, Elder McKay said. “It is a vision that aligns with the blessings Joseph Smith prophetically called down from heaven upon all who would be endowed from on high in the Kirtland Temple,” he said. “My earnest hope and prayer is that we may all emerge from that sacred little temple with some measure of that transformational blessing upon our heads and in our hearts.” Cool. The whole article is worth a read. Thanks, -Smac 7
Pyreaux Posted June 14, 2024 Posted June 14, 2024 1. The items were priceless to us, the land sacred and comes with an air of authenticity for the holders which is also priceless. 2. The price was to meet the CoC immediate needs, not its actual secular worth. 3. The Church isn't exactly breaking the bank. People want the Church to use its money. So be it. 4. Even if the buildings were only used for Tourism, Tours with Missionaries would fulfill the mission of the church. 3
Popular Post Doctor Steuss Posted June 14, 2024 Popular Post Posted June 14, 2024 While I'm certainly not an appraiser (of real estate, or historical collectibles): From looking at all of the plots of real estate (both vacant land, and buildings) that was acquired, and all of the historical items (and what similar items have gone for at auction in the open market), I don't think it was an "eye-popping amount" in the least. If anything, the LDS Church got a pretty smoking deal. 7
Duncan Posted June 15, 2024 Posted June 15, 2024 They came out with a video, would be nice to get a full transcript of his talk 4
longview Posted June 15, 2024 Posted June 15, 2024 In reading https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/frequently-asked-questions-clarify-the-transfer-of-sacred-sites-and-historic-documents I found this list of documents: Quote Joseph Smith's printed “Phinney” Bible (Cooperstown, New York, 1828) with his numerous markings as part of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible Manuscripts of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible: Old Testament manuscript 1 (June 1830–7 March 1831) Old Testament manuscript 2, first part (8 March–5 April 1831) Old Testament manuscript 2, second part (20 July 1832–2 July 1833) Old Testament manuscript 3 (ca. late 1830–early 1831) New Testament manuscript 1 (8 March–June 1831) New Testament manuscript 2, Folio 1 (4 Apr 1831–26 Sep 1831) New Testament manuscript 2, Folio 2 (26 Sep 1831–late 1831) New Testament manuscript 2, Folio 3 (winter 1831–1832) New Testament manuscript 2, Folio 4 (January/February 1832–31 July 1832) Publication committee manuscripts for the first complete edition of the Joseph Smith Translation of the Bible as The Holy Scriptures (1867) I would like to know which of the Old Testament manuscripts were used to compose our current Book of Moses in Pearl of Great Price. My recollection is that Brigham Young and the church took the "First draft of the Book of Moses" as they moved from Nauvoo to the Great Salt Lake. There was a "Second draft of the Book of Moses" that was kept by Emma Smith and later bequeathed to Joseph Smith III and the RLDS church. In our Book of Moses chapter 8 verse 7 the age Methuselah at his death was 969 years. For Adam, Moses 6:12 says he passed at age of 930 years. I think I read in an Ensign article many years ago that stated that the second draft had further revisions that corrected the ages of Adam and Methuselah at their deaths both to be 999 years and 6 months. I am unable to find the source. I used an AI named Daniel for help: Quote AI Assistant - Daniel Moses 6:12 You: can you find ensign article where the ages of adam and methuselah at their deaths were 999 years and 6 months Daniel: I couldn't find any Ensign articles or official LDS Church publications that state Adam and Methuselah lived to be 999 years and 6 months. According to canonical scriptures, Adam lived to be 930 years old (Genesis 5:5), and Methuselah is noted for being the oldest person in the Bible, living to 969 years old (Genesis 5:27). These ages reflect the longest lifespans recorded in the scriptures and are cited frequently in discussions about the antediluvian period. If you have any further details or a specific article you're thinking of, please provide more information, and I'd be happy to help you search further! Please always check my answers. I am a young A.I. and might make mistakes. I am a subscriber to Oak Norton's app ScriptureNotes.com that features this AI. Is there any of you on this board that is aware of the second draft or the revised death ages? Please help. If I am correct, will the LDS church incorporate the second draft to bring our Pearl of Great Price "up to date" ?
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