Follow Up - Sealing Approaches and Polygamy

[The Nehor]

24 minutes ago, manol said:

For all I know Earth is a gymnasium for spirits, and you signed up for the hardest stations and the heaviest weights.  Who am I to question how many reps you can do.

 

Sounds like something my idiot premortal self would do. *looking in body* Not so arrogant now are you you arrogant little prat?

[manol]

9 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

Sounds like something my idiot premortal self would do.

 

 

Edited October 1, 2022 by manol

[HappyJackWagon]

On 9/30/2022 at 2:38 PM, manol said:

 

 

If we believe in God (and specifically in a God who is good and fair and who loves us) more than we believe in each of the doctrines and policies of the LDS Church, then "God will work it all out" makes sense and speaks peace to our souls.

If we believe in each of the doctrines and policies of the LDS Church more than we believe in a God who is good and fair and who loves us, then "God will work it all out" may not make sense and may seem like deception.   

Which are we first and foremost - followers of Christ, or followers of a Church?  Well, whose name do we take upon ourselves?  Who do we covenant to "always remember" every time we take the sacrament?  Who are we supposed to become like?  Whose name do we pray in?  Whose name do we act in?  Who is among us wherever two or more are gathered in his name?  Who is the Vine that we are the Branches of?  Anybody see a pattern here?

 

 

This would be useful if the church had any level of humility regarding it's own knowledge, teachings, proclamations, commandments and policies.

As you've probably seen in some of the comments, it is not enough in the church to be Christian. While I would hope that most would agree that we are only saved via Jesus, I believe there is a HUGE portion of the church which believes in the church just as much as it does in Jesus. After all, Jesus doesn't save. Jesus AND the church saves. It's a huge problem IMO.

On 9/30/2022 at 6:27 PM, Tacenda said:

That is the problem with saying the prophets are speaking directly with God and we are to believe what the prophets say because of it. No religion seems better IMO and having your own faith and relationship seems the safer bet. If this church is the only church that is the truest one or the one, then why would God fail so many times with saying one thing and it being wrong or doctrine changes or doctrine harms as in the problem with whom will we be with in the eternities. How about we'll be with our families period.

IMO this is the real message of the First Vision accounts. One doesn't have to rely on "the church" to learn what God wants them to learn. They can go directly to God. There was a recognition in the fallacy of "church" as an intermediary with God. Jesus seemed to have a similar issue with the Pharisees