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Internet safety, how do you keep your children safe?


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Curious, for those of you with children who allow them to have tablets/phones, how do you keep them safe?  I'm assuming most of you know the internet isn't exactly a safe place and it's up to you to protect your children.  I'm finding out how many parents do give their kids tablets, smartphones and other things and had to wonder.  

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Apple allows parents to manage their kids phones really well, to the point that you can put in how many minutes they are allowed to text for the day, whether they can send photos or get photos through text, or what apps are open when.  You can also remove the browser from phones so that they can't get onto the internet that way.  

And of course restrict what apps they are allowed to download at all.

But even with the most stringent safety features if you let kids have access to a phone or tablet you have to be checking it frequently.  All parts.  They will find ways to get around it if they think you won't notice.  

 

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I imagine it was the same as when I was a kid. My parents put up a bunch of blockers and safety measures on our internet browser. Took me about half an hour to download a new browser and get around it. It would be faster now. Download times back then were awful. I didn’t do it to find porn though. I was mostly just wanting to watch Flash cartoons their stupid nanny software blocked.

The software is getting a little better but there are easy ways around almost everything that can be found if you know how to type what you want into Google.

Off the top of my head just do a factory reset on the phone. Reenable the parental controls but choose your own password. Everything will look on the up and up if parents ask for it.

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14 hours ago, The Nehor said:

I imagine it was the same as when I was a kid. My parents put up a bunch of blockers and safety measures on our internet browser. Took me about half an hour to download a new browser and get around it. It would be faster now. Download times back then were awful. I didn’t do it to find porn though. I was mostly just wanting to watch Flash cartoons their stupid nanny software blocked.

The software is getting a little better but there are easy ways around almost everything that can be found if you know how to type what you want into Google.

Off the top of my head just do a factory reset on the phone. Reenable the parental controls but choose your own password. Everything will look on the up and up if parents ask for it.

Until the parents try to get in it and realize they don't have the passcode.  ;) 

IPhone will also send you a copy of all of the child's activity, including how many minutes they are on what apps or with whom.  And you can even get copies of every text that they send and that is sent to them, in real time.

You are right in that most things can eventually be worked around, but if you are using parental controls and reviewing their usage daily, it wouldn't take very long to see they had disabled something.

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4 hours ago, bluebell said:

Until the parents try to get in it and realize they don't have the passcode.  ;) 

IPhone will also send you a copy of all of the child's activity, including how many minutes they are on what apps or with whom.  And you can even get copies of every text that they send and that is sent to them, in real time.

You are right in that most things can eventually be worked around, but if you are using parental controls and reviewing their usage daily, it wouldn't take very long to see they had disabled something.

True, but it requires a basic level of tech savvy on the part of the parents. It doesn't have to be much but it does have to be there.

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On 6/18/2021 at 6:05 PM, bluebell said:

Apple allows parents to manage their kids phones really well, to the point that you can put in how many minutes they are allowed to text for the day, whether they can send photos or get photos through text, or what apps are open when.  You can also remove the browser from phones so that they can't get onto the internet that way.  

And of course restrict what apps they are allowed to download at all.

But even with the most stringent safety features if you let kids have access to a phone or tablet you have to be checking it frequently.  All parts.  They will find ways to get around it if they think you won't notice.  

 

That sounds like an expensive, time consuming hassle.  Apple isn't cheap and the time and effort involved sounds like a lot.  My cousins in Hawaii who have kids just don't allow that stuff in the house.  Thing is over there it's a different culture of sorts, here even if you're privileged enough to live in an upper class suburb that's somewhat culturally and politically homogenous you still have more to worry about from dangerous outside influences.  That and from what I've seen of a lot of kids they're far too naive, like their parents they expect society to protect them from everything, that doesn't exactly work.

On 6/18/2021 at 7:51 PM, The Nehor said:

I imagine it was the same as when I was a kid. My parents put up a bunch of blockers and safety measures on our internet browser. Took me about half an hour to download a new browser and get around it. It would be faster now. Download times back then were awful. I didn’t do it to find porn though. I was mostly just wanting to watch Flash cartoons their stupid nanny software blocked.

The software is getting a little better but there are easy ways around almost everything that can be found if you know how to type what you want into Google.

Off the top of my head just do a factory reset on the phone. Reenable the parental controls but choose your own password. Everything will look on the up and up if parents ask for it.

I was free to do as I wished, thing is I knew that I'd face consequences.  For me I'd hang out in chat rooms, IRC and what not.  Was cool, getting to learn things as a kid that weren't talked about.  You're tech savvy, I still find old school sites on the onion network occasionally.  Amazing how people nowadays think social media is the real internet then are blown away when something like our oil supply networks getting hacked. 

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39 minutes ago, poptart said:

That sounds like an expensive, time consuming hassle.  Apple isn't cheap and the time and effort involved sounds like a lot.  My cousins in Hawaii who have kids just don't allow that stuff in the house.  Thing is over there it's a different culture of sorts, here even if you're privileged enough to live in an upper class suburb that's somewhat culturally and politically homogenous you still have more to worry about from dangerous outside influences.  That and from what I've seen of a lot of kids they're far too naive, like their parents they expect society to protect them from everything, that doesn't exactly work.

My kids had used phones, so usually around $100 or so but yes, it is time consuming.  But if you are going to give your kid 24 hour access to everything single thing in the entire world, then you need to be willing to keep them safe from the worst parts of it, sometimes against their will.

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38 minutes ago, bluebell said:

My kids had used phones, so usually around $100 or so but yes, it is time consuming.  But if you are going to give your kid 24 hour access to everything single thing in the entire world, then you need to be willing to keep them safe from the worst parts of it, sometimes against their will.

It really is more of a headache to be a parent nowadays isn't it?  Can see why a lot of people are choosing to opt out.  US society has made it a lot more difficult and expensive to raise children, didn't help they allowed a lot of my generation to grow up the way they did, big surprise a lot of us act and vote the way we do.  It sucks, know a few nurses who are young parents, these people work their backsides off to provide for their kids.  The money and time they have to throw at everything just blows my mind.  If this country did more to fix education, healthcare as well as better job protections for American citizens we'd see a difference in things.  I know people here in this country are quick to point out how hard Asian Immigrants work but they usually leave out how supportive their communities, churches, temples etc. are.  Anglo American culture hasn't had anything like that since the 60s, even if you can afford to live in an affluent area.

 

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