Calm Posted July 8, 2020 Posted July 8, 2020 14 minutes ago, Daniel2 said: Listening to "the one" and meeting them where they are--trying to understand why they are struggling with suicide--is more important than whatever the statistics or anecdotes say, at least insofar as knowing how to help "the one" that's in our circle of influence.. It is also important to approach their issues in a realistic manner (not saying you discount their claims to their faces or support the claims; each case is different and how one helps is highly dependent on the individual circumstances). People who view suicide as a valid option for responding to their problems are generally in a state they are not realistically viewing the influences in their lives, giving more weight to those things they are obsessing about and less weight to those they see as positive things that may not actually be that (for example, they may see drug use as helping them cope when it is really crippling their ability to act effectively or to process their ideas and emotions). In helping those with suicidal ideation, it is very important not to increase the perceived validity of their misconceptions while trying to show support and understanding. It is a difficult path of helping them to feel their suffering is understood and not discounted while trying to help them see things in a more balanced way. 2
The Unclean Deacon Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 On 7/8/2020 at 3:25 PM, Calm said: No thank you. I see value in anecdotes to provide insight with details, but they are not that great to determine actual trends. The data currently available does not support the claim the theology is responsible according to the latest info coming from the state research on this (I will dig up a link later if I remember) though the final report hasn’t been issued yet. not one suicide due to mormonism? huh Not a single one... because if there is at least two then "Latter-day Saint Theology is Responsible for Lgbt+ Suicides" and there surely have been more than 2
The Unclean Deacon Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 Just now, The Unclean Deacon said: not one suicide due to mormonism? huh Not a single one... because if there is at least two then "Latter-day Saint Theology is Responsible for Lgbt+ Suicides" and there surely have been more than 2 PS, i am also willing to acknowledge mormonism may have prevented a few as well.
USU78 Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 2 minutes ago, The Unclean Deacon said: not one suicide due to mormonism? huh Not a single one... because if there is at least two then "Latter-day Saint Theology is Responsible for Lgbt+ Suicides" and there surely have been more than 2 Ah, yes. The Mormon Blood Libel. How very unexpected.
Damien the Leper Posted July 13, 2020 Posted July 13, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, USU78 said: Ah, yes. The Mormon Blood Libel. How very unexpected. The Blood Atonement heretical and blasphemous nonsense doesn't fall under this does it? Edited July 13, 2020 by Damien the Leper
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