Bill “Papa” Lee Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 One of my many favorite aspects of re-reading the Bible, is (for me at least) when I read the accounts of those who have been given immortality, until the second coming of Jesus Christ. Elijah was transfigured, and taken away in a Chariot of fire into the heavens. Moses never tasted death, even though his last book, last or next to last chapter of his writtings says that "he was dead and buried", which means he did not write about it. Then it was Elijah and Moses who appeared upon the "Mount of Transfiguration", not as resurrected beings, but translated beings. They were not resurrected, because Christ had not yet died, and been resurrected as "he is the first fruits of them that slept". In addition in the NT, John the Baptist, and many other followers were raised from the dead when Jesus Christ, was. As many as 300, whom were seen by family and friends. At yet, they are no more, taken up into heaven. In the BoM we read of the three Nephites, who continued to minister to this day, and until Jesus Christ returns. Also them and the others I speak of above, will never taste death, but shall be changed, as resurrected having fulfilled their callings. Also the countless appearances of Angels to aid in the work, and aid us when we're are worthy and need them. Jesus Christ just ascended into the heavens, or to his own Chariot of Faire. Jesus who during the last 40 days, ate food, drank water or wine, breathed air, could not it seems just float through outer space. I know that "with him, all things are possible. It is also amazing how they come so quickly, and leave even faster. Not to suggest they are extra-terrestrial beings as it obvious that they are. Just musing, having read these many events, it is just on my mind. So "Your Thought"...
Robert F. Smith Posted April 19, 2018 Posted April 19, 2018 Trace Adkins sings a poignant song which includes just those images: going over the Jordan (just like Elijah), going to see his Mother, going to see his Father, just going home. 3
theplains Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 On 19/04/2018 at 12:15 AM, Bill "Papa" Lee said: Moses never tasted death, even though his last book, last or next to last chapter of his writtings says that "he was dead and buried", which means he did not write about it. Deuteronomy 34:5-7 - "And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died ..." He was not permitted to enter the Promised Land because he had disobeyed God in the striking of the rock (Numbers 20:8). Jim
Guest Posted April 23, 2018 Posted April 23, 2018 3 hours ago, theplains said: Deuteronomy 34:5-7 - "And Moses the servant of the Lord died there in Moab, as the Lord had said. He buried him in Moab, in the valley opposite Beth Peor, but to this day no one knows where his grave is. Moses was a hundred and twenty years old when he died ..." He was not permitted to enter the Promised Land because he had disobeyed God in the striking of the rock (Numbers 20:8). Jim First of all, Moses is reported the be the author of the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. So how could he write this? Also he appeared with Elijah on the "Mount of Transfiguration" to Jesus Christ, in the company of Peter, James and John. Or was it just Peter, have to look it up? He could not have done so as a resurrected being, because Jesus had not yet be resurrected.
theplains Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 On 4/23/2018 at 7:55 PM, Bill "Papa" Lee said: First of all, Moses is reported the be the author of the Torah, the first five books of the Bible. So how could he write this? Also he appeared with Elijah on the "Mount of Transfiguration" to Jesus Christ, in the company of Peter, James and John. Or was it just Peter, have to look it up? He could not have done so as a resurrected being, because Jesus had not yet be resurrected. Who said that Moses wrote all of the first five books? Nothing you have mentioned contradicts the biblical teaching that Moses died. Even the book of Jude says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." You are the only Latter-day Saint which I know who does not believe Moses died. I wonder if you also disagree with the Bible's explanation on why he was not permitted to enter the Promised Land. Jim
The Nehor Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, theplains said: Who said that Moses wrote all of the first five books? Nothing you have mentioned contradicts the biblical teaching that Moses died. Even the book of Jude says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." You are the only Latter-day Saint which I know who does not believe Moses died. I wonder if you also disagree with the Bible's explanation on why he was not permitted to enter the Promised Land. Jim I don’t believe Moses died.
Guest Posted April 26, 2018 Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) 7 hours ago, theplains said: Who said that Moses wrote all of the first five books? Nothing you have mentioned contradicts the biblical teaching that Moses died. Even the book of Jude says, "Yet Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing accusation, but said, The Lord rebuke thee." You are the only Latter-day Saint which I know who does not believe Moses died. I wonder if you also disagree with the Bible's explanation on why he was not permitted to enter the Promised Land. Jim I am not the only one who believes he was translated and not died. I am not the only Latter-day Saint, nor the only Christian or Jew, for that matter. ETA: Who says Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible? Almost everyone living or dead, and the Bible. Edited April 27, 2018 by Bill "Papa" Lee
theplains Posted April 28, 2018 Posted April 28, 2018 On 4/26/2018 at 7:02 PM, Bill "Papa" Lee said: ETA: Who says Moses wrote the first five books of the Bible? Almost everyone living or dead, and the Bible. I believe that Moses wrote most of the first five books of the Bible. After he died, some unnamed person continued with the records. What scriptural reason can you provide explaining why God did not permit Moses to enter the Promised Land? Jim
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