Scott Lloyd Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 15 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said: People use the idea of "anti-PC" as an excuse to act and say in ways that are terrible. I'd rather have someone act nice, even if they are just doing it for political points. One of the more disgusting things in the Trump campaign was how people reveled in doing and saying terrible things. It was like being a jerk was now a virtue. Reminds me of Isaiah, and how people will call good evil and evil good. As used today, political correctness has come to be indicative of bias and propaganda in mass media and in popular discourse. That's why many people despise it. I know that's why I do. And, if you will, political correctness can be a means of calling evil good, to put it in Isaiah's terms. Edited June 29, 2017 by Scott Lloyd 1
Popular Post MiserereNobis Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 29, 2017 29 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: the anti-Trump fake-news media I'm really surprised that you, as a journalist, would use this term. How are you defining "fake news"? Fake means not true. Fake news then would be news that isn't true -- in other words, lies. Do you believe that NBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, etc, are lying? It's one thing to accuse a news source of bias, of focusing attention on certain things and ignoring other things. It's quite a different thing to accuse a news source of being fake, of telling lies. 5
Popular Post Scott Lloyd Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 26 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said: I'm really surprised that you, as a journalist, would use this term. I use it precisely because I am a journalist and I deplore what CNN and other entities have done to a once-honorable profession. Quote How are you defining "fake news"? Fake means not true. Fake news then would be news that isn't true -- in other words, lies. Kind of like what CNN does much of the time. Quote Do you believe that NBC, CNN, Washington Post, New York Times, etc, are lying? I've never held CNN in high regard. I'm afraid the other entities you mention have become brazenly biased to the point they dishonor the profession. Quote It's one thing to accuse a news source of bias, of focusing attention on certain things and ignoring other things. It's quite a different thing to accuse a news source of being fake, of telling lies. Uttering a blatant lie is not the only way to convey falsehood. It can be done through slanting, out-of-context quoting, ignoring pertinent facts, etc. In fact that way of conveying falsehood can be worse because it is so insidious. By the way, are you aware of Project Veritas and its undercover video of a CNN producer talking about his network's ethical misdeeds with regard to coverage of the mythical Russia conspiracy in the last election? Take a look. Edited June 29, 2017 by Scott Lloyd 7
ttribe Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, Atheist Mormon said: How many of you did vote for Trump? <---------Life-long Republican, historically conservative on both social and fiscal issues, held my nose and voted for Clinton. Edited June 29, 2017 by ttribe 4
MormonVideoGame Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 3 hours ago, Darren10 said: I voted for Trump to a) get a much better chance to replace Scalia with another constitional originalist a) the world is not black and white b) You can interpret the constitution in many ways, in many cases there is no original intent. c) the world is changing, many things that worked in the 18th century do not work today d) We have amendments (changes) because the constitution is not perfect. The constitution allowed slavery for example. 3 hours ago, Darren10 said: to vote against Hillary. I absolutely did not want her to become President so I voted for the guy who actually had a chance to beat her. McMullin certainly wasn't that guy. Why not? She didn't break the law, it is now very obvious because she is not in jail or under investigation. 44 minutes ago, bluebell said: I didn't vote for him. I didn't vote for Clinton either though. I was never a Hillary fan, but most of the accusations (probably like 80%) against her are false or misleading. Republican politicians are better deceivers than anti-Mormons. 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: Since then, I have watched aghast as they have tried in vain to delegitimize the presidency of a duly elected candidate by pursuing a witch hunt that does not have a shred of evidence to sustain it. So Obamacare is a disaster, but Republicans can't find a replacement. It is all just politics, Republicans won't find something better than Obamacare. It is funny how so many Republicans think they are smarter than Harvard intellectuals like Obama. Quote As used today, political correctness has come to be indicative of bias and propaganda in mass media and in popular discourse Fox News is worst than CNN or even the New York Times. Fox News is doing a lot of anti-science propaganda. Edited June 29, 2017 by MormonVideoGame
Atheist Mormon Posted June 29, 2017 Author Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Calm said: Why do you want to know? Look....... there's nothing right/wrong the way you/I vote....We just have opinions and (thankfully) a democracy to express our opinions in a free society..... I'm always curious what type of person votes for Trump (Since I knew all along this guy would be a second coming of J.Edgar Hoover).
Popular Post MiserereNobis Posted June 29, 2017 Popular Post Posted June 29, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Scott Lloyd said: by pursuing a witch hunt that does not have a shred of evidence to sustain it. CFR. You know, to really be able to claim that, you'd have to be an investigative journalist on the story, or a member of Robert Mueller's team. Are you either? If not, then you are on the outside of the investigation and do not have access to whether or not there is evidence. I'm not claiming Trump's campaign colluded with Russia. I'm claiming that I don't know because I'm not part of the investigation and I am not privy to information that people like Mueller's team are privy to. That undercover CNN video isn't going to work as a response to my CFR, because a CNN producer doesn't speak for all of the other media outlets that are reporting, nor does he speak for the FBI, nor does he speak for the special prosecutor. ETA: how in the world has this thread lasted this long...? If it was Monday, I'd say the mods were at family home evening, but Thursday? Edited June 29, 2017 by MiserereNobis 6
Scott Lloyd Posted June 29, 2017 Posted June 29, 2017 7 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said: Look....... there's nothing right/wrong the way you/I vote....We just have opinions and (thankfully) a democracy to express our opinions in a free society..... I'm always curious what type of person votes for Trump (Since I knew all along this guy would be a second coming of J.Edgar Hoover). I believe you enjoy pot-stirring and that starting this thread was the quickest way you could think of to do it.
Atheist Mormon Posted June 29, 2017 Author Posted June 29, 2017 3 hours ago, Darren10 said: I voted for Trump to a) get a much better chance to replace Scalia with another constitional originalist, guaranteed not to happen under President Clinton, and b) to vote against Hillary. I absolutely did not want her to become President so I voted for the guy who actually had a chance to beat her. McMullin certainly wasn't that guy. This is genuinely sad reason. There will be a good reason now that Free choice for women will be trampled, Christian oppressive powers will be strengthened....Individual freedoms (especially for blacks) will be curtailed.
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