Rasband Promises

[Kenngo1969]

30 minutes ago, stemelbow said:

The other trick is.  Employ brevity.  Try not to be so long winded so when something get's eaten, you can repeat it easily and quickly.  Alright...I dont' always do that, but I've been thinking of telling Smac that for a while.

just playing I like his contributions.

"My long thoughts are not your short thoughts, neither are your short ways my long ways," saith the Lord.  "For as it takes longer to get to heaven than it takes to get to earth, so are my thoughts longer than your thoughts, and my ways longer than your ways."

—Isaiah 55:8-9, KGT

 

[Robert F. Smith]

10 hours ago, HappyJackWagon said:

Thanks for illustrating the problem. Based on that metaphor I've had the recipe and I've followed it for 40 years of my life. But life and testimony aren't are a recipe. It's way more complex than that and the implication that all people can follow a certain checklist and get a specific outcome is both naïve and harmful. It doesn't account for the complexity of the individual and treats them like a mass produced factory product.

I tried the promise for 40 years. His promise was based on a principle of closely adhering to a checklist of faithfulness that I've followed very closely. Or are you suggesting that his promise starts from the day he uttered it as if his words were some kind of magical incantation?

Other than Robert Smith who flat out said I'm to blame, I've yet to see anyone try to thoughtfully tackle the underlying question that prompted this thread. What does it mean when a man who supposedly speaks for God makes a promise that isn't kept? If an individual's experience shows that the promises isn't kept, why should that individual continue to place trust in the person making the broken promises? Or should the individual choose to blame God instead?

I suppose it depends on whether you actually believe in a god of some kind (you choose the definition of that god).  You have yet to come to terms, however, with the consequence of blaming just one guy for all your disappointments, as though it is all Elder Rasband's fault for making a promise which you have already pretested and found wanting.  While at the same time ignoring thousands of years of just such biblical promises, which you seem unwilling to declare false and misleading.

You object that life and testimony are not a recipe, even though you recognize it as a mere metaphor.  People use just that sort of metaphor all the time, but suddenly you object to it.  Why?  Probably because you don't know what a metaphor is, and are unwilling to deal with its implications -- which Jimmy Webb understood only too well, and which he put into powerful words and music:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mI2V661ej-8 .  But he didn't blame it on someone else.

[sunstoned]

12 hours ago, Jeanne said:

And they never apologize.

They never do.