Ancestry.com DNA results

[Okrahomer]

10 hours ago, GingerRed said:

I did my DNA testing with Family Tree DNA. Last year in 2015 they held a huge Family History Conference in Salt Lake City. Family Tree had a booth there, so they could get the sample right then and there! No shipping costs!  So since I've been wanting to do this forever...and they were giving 20% discount...I thought, go for it!  Now Family Tree takes the sample by gently scrapping the inside of your cheek.  I was told that's more accurate than a spit sample. I took 8 weeks to get my results.  I am 85 % European ( western and central Europe 61%....Southern Europe 15%....Eastern Europe 9%) and Middle Eastern ( Asia Minor) 14% !  The European is a lot of my dad's side. I already have my huge family tree on Ancestry ( and some on Family Search) I'm not surprised about the Middle Eastern as that's my mom's side ( Romania/ Albania/ Greece/Turkey). But what surprised me was my roots spread upward through Hungary, Poland, Ukraine, Belarus...I thought....hey!  I wonder if I have Jewish roots? That would be so cool! I also noticed a slight sweep of DNA into far northern Africa...around upper  Morocco and Nigeria!  I'm like , what?? I have slight African roots?? Okay the only explanation I thought of for that is...well....I have a great great great grandfather who owned a plantation in North Carolina ..and many slaves. I'm not very proud of that as a heritage. But.....I wonder if...that's where that DNA might come from....? You never know. Its possible.  Wish I could find a Moroccan or Nigerian match to find out! 

I would recommend that now that you have your DNA file, upload it to GEDmatch.com.  GEDmatch can really break down your DNA results into tons of different ways!  It's way cool! They give you a kit number that you can share with others who have kit numbers to see if you match!  Many of the names of people who match my DNA are the on the same list of names that pop up on my Family Tree DNA.  I have only spoken to one person so far who emailed me to say, hey we are cousins! Now we are working together to find that common ancestor!  I haven't had the guts yet to make that same jump, by emailing someone myself. But I'm sure am curious, especially the names that come up as 2nd cousins! Wow so many!! 

If any of you already have a GEDmatch kit number, let me know! Lets compare! We might be related!

 

Red

 

 

 

 

 

GED match kit?  Wow!  That sounds like something VGJ should do for sure.  I'd like to do it too.  I'll have to investigate.

Edited April 16, 2016 by Okrahomer
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[VideoGameJunkie]

I got an email today confirming that they got my sample already. 

[Okrahomer]

That's great.  It seems yours is moving forward a lot more quickly than mine did. 

[VideoGameJunkie]

1 minute ago, Okrahomer said:

That's great.  It seems yours is moving forward a lot more quickly than mine did. 

Where do you live? I mailed it to Sandy Utah and I live 45 minutes from there. Perhaps you live in another state so it took longer.

[VideoGameJunkie]

Ancestry let me know they got my DNA on the 15th, 13 days ago, but they've yet to tell me that they're testing it. 

[VideoGameJunkie]

The labs say they are working on my DNA and will have my results for me in 2 to 4 weeks. I feel like I've been waiting forever already.

[Jeanne]

1 hour ago, VideoGameJunkie said:

The labs say they are working on my DNA and will have my results for me in 2 to 4 weeks. I feel like I've been waiting forever already.

Patience is a virtue,  I can understand your excitement!!

[VideoGameJunkie]

1 hour ago, Jeanne said:

Patience is a virtue,  I can understand your excitement!!

I'm very excited to learn my background!

[VideoGameJunkie]

My Ancestry DNA results are finally in. I wanted to do this test because I'm a test tube baby and didn't know my heritage background, and I'm a little shocked with the results. I am:
45% European Jewish (Holy crap I'm Jewish) Primarily located in Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Israel
19% Great Britain
16% Swedish, Nowegian, Dutch
7% Spain, Portugal...
5% Europe West
3% Irish (Really only 3? My full name is Irish)
2% Europe East
Less than 1% Italy/Greece
1% Caucasus
Less than 1% Middle East

[VideoGameJunkie]

I'm shocked by my results. Can't believe I've been almost half Jewish my whole life and didn't even know it.

[Jeanne]

Congrats on finding out a little about yourself.  I am happy for you.  You are a little bit of everything from what i see..and some good heritage there.   After all is said and done VGJ, you are you.  And we love ya!

[VideoGameJunkie]

12 minutes ago, Jeanne said:

Congrats on finding out a little about yourself.  I am happy for you.  You are a little bit of everything from what i see..and some good heritage there.   After all is said and done VGJ, you are you.  And we love ya!

Thanks Jeanne! This process was worth it.

[Okrahomer]

On May 17, 2016 at 10:17 AM, VideoGameJunkie said:

My Ancestry DNA results are finally in. I wanted to do this test because I'm a test tube baby and didn't know my heritage background, and I'm a little shocked with the results. I am:
45% European Jewish (Holy crap I'm Jewish) Primarily located in Poland, Belarus, Ukraine, Russia, Hungary, Israel
19% Great Britain
16% Swedish, Nowegian, Dutch
7% Spain, Portugal...
5% Europe West
3% Irish (Really only 3? My full name is Irish)
2% Europe East
Less than 1% Italy/Greece
1% Caucasus
Less than 1% Middle East

Fascinating results, VGJ.  Did they give you a list of potential family connections as well?  I have quite a list of potential cousins with varying levels of "confidence".  If they've provided that for you, then you should be getting a glimpse into the unknown part of your heritage.  I've been thinking I might take GingerRed's advice (above) and do the GEDmatch kit process.  It sounds like that system goes even further in terms of linking you to actual people.

[GrainofSalt]

Genetics is not like regular genealogy and it takes a while to get used to its counter-intuitive logic.  Sometimes, instead of creating more certainty, a DNA test can create more doubts.  Like, I was surprised when my FamilyTreeDNA test showed 8% Eastern European.  Then a few months later it dropped to 1%.  So it is very cutting edge & the number will change according to improvements in technology and the algorithms they use etc.  I wish I could understand my results better, too.

[Okrahomer]

1 hour ago, GrainofSalt said:

Genetics is not like regular genealogy and it takes a while to get used to its counter-intuitive logic.  Sometimes, instead of creating more certainty, a DNA test can create more doubts.  Like, I was surprised when my FamilyTreeDNA test showed 8% Eastern European.  Then a few months later it dropped to 1%.  So it is very cutting edge & the number will change according to improvements in technology and the algorithms they use etc.  I wish I could understand my results better, too.

This is very interesting to me.  I had the impression from what I read that it could change over time, but I'm not sure I understand why.  Is it because they're still enlarging the sample "panels"?  

I think I read something about this on the Ancestry.com site.  Apparently, they compare our results to ethnic "panels."  The panels are created by testing folks who were unquestionably multi-generationally typical of a particular region/ethnicity?  The combined results make up the "panel" for that ethnicity.  But it seemed they were still working on some of the panels--i.e., enlarging them.

In my case, I'm having difficulty understanding why my Scandinavian heritage is not reflected by a higher percentage than the current 1% it shows.  I haven't gone back to re-check my results in a while, maybe I should?

[saemo]

On March 29, 2016 at 8:07 PM, Okrahomer said:

I received results today and discovered that I'm almost as "British" (51%) as the typical Brit (60%).  In fact, a distant cousin who was born and bred in England is even less Bitish than I am!

I also have quite a lot of Irish in me (18%); Western European (13%); Iberian (8%); Finnish/NW Russian (5%);  East European (4%); and a little Scandinavian (1%).  I'm puzzled that there isn't a higher Scandinavian element given we have Danes and Swedes on my mother's side a scant 3 generations back.  Any DNA experts here who could help me understand how this works?

Has anyone else undergone the DNA testing?  It's very interesting to my ignorant mind, and would probably be even more so, if I just had a better understanding.

 

Could be basic human biology. You didn't get the Scandinavian genes. If you have siblings their results may be totally different. 

Also depends on a lot of factors, such as, different parts of Great Britain have different genes, some areas have more Scandinavian than British heritage, other areas have almost an entirely Briton heritage  

Add to that genealogy is not a genetic science. Secret adoptions can factor in.

...and secret liaisons. A few years back there was a study that showed 3/100 children were not the biological child of the father who was raising them. These are fathers who were/are unknowingly raising children who are not their own. http://national.deseretnews.com/article/2357/unknowingly-raising-another-mans-child.html

With those odds it's probable all of us have at least one male in our family tree who is not biologically related to us. Also probable we all have at least one secret or lost-to-our-knowledge adoption in the trees.  Children were orphaned more often, and raised by those who took them in. There's no way to know all the ways a child made it to the family who raised them. As you know, the further we go back the less information and intact family lore. Family histories are mostly lost to us. 

[Okrahomer]

22 hours ago, saemo said:

Could be basic human biology. You didn't get the Scandinavian genes. If you have siblings their results may be totally different. 

Also depends on a lot of factors, such as, different parts of Great Britain have different genes, some areas have more Scandinavian than British heritage, other areas have almost an entirely Briton heritage  

Add to that genealogy is not a genetic science. Secret adoptions can factor in.

...and secret liaisons. A few years back there was a study that showed 3/100 children were not the biological child of the father who was raising them. These are fathers who were/are unknowingly raising children who are not their own. http://national.deseretnews.com/article/2357/unknowingly-raising-another-mans-child.html

With those odds it's probable all of us have at least one male in our family tree who is not biologically related to us. Also probable we all have at least one secret or lost-to-our-knowledge adoption in the trees.  Children were orphaned more often, and raised by those who took them in. There's no way to know all the ways a child made it to the family who raised them. As you know, the further we go back the less information and intact family lore. Family histories are mostly lost to us. 

I was just discussing this very thing with my sister.  She and I seem to have more of my Dad's physical characteristics, and his ancestry is heavily British.  Whereas some of our siblings very obviously take after Mom.  I suspect those siblings would have more of the Scandinavian genes.  Here's a humorous little poem that kind of reflects what we're talking about:

Genealogy
By Lillian Livingston Woolley

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/11/poetry?lang=eng
My mother’s eyes were Irish;
My father’s eyes were, too,
And all my lovely sisters
Had eyes of Irish blue.

And when the boys, they came along,
Ah, sure, they did beguile,
For each of them was surely blessed
With a splendid Irish smile.

And proud we were of Irish blood
As pure as shamrock green,
As sturdy an Irish family
As ever could be seen.

And then we joined the Mormon Church—
Ah, surely that was grand!
And with true Irish vigor
We answered each demand.

We kept the Word of Wisdom;
We paid our tithing, too.
We all did every little thing
That we were asked to do.

We did our genealogy
There, duty was all fun.
With joyful pride we studied hard
About each Irish son,

We wrote it on the family chart
(We wrote it all in green);
Each Irish name we added on,
Each fellow, each colleen.

And then there came that frightful day
The shock we had to bear!
Father came home looking pale;
We gathered ’round his chair.

And mother’s Irish eyes were sad;
Father’s eyes were, too.
And sister’s eyes were full of tears
That washed the Irish blue.

My brothers’ splendid Irish smiles
Soon faded all away,
And all our Irish tongues were stilled,
For there was naught to say.

This thing our father told us—
Believe it? We could not!
For in our Irish line he found
Great-grandpa was a Scot!

 

Edited August 17, 2016 by Okrahomer

[ERayR]

On 8/16/2016 at 10:28 PM, Okrahomer said:

I was just discussing this very thing with my sister.  She and I seem to have more of my Dad's physical characteristics, and his ancestry is heavily British.  Whereas some of our siblings very obviously take after Mom.  I suspect those siblings would have more of the Scandinavian genes.  Here's a humorous little poem that kind of reflects what we're talking about:

Genealogy
By Lillian Livingston Woolley

https://www.lds.org/ensign/1972/11/poetry?lang=eng
My mother’s eyes were Irish;
My father’s eyes were, too,
And all my lovely sisters
Had eyes of Irish blue.

And when the boys, they came along,
Ah, sure, they did beguile,
For each of them was surely blessed
With a splendid Irish smile.

And proud we were of Irish blood
As pure as shamrock green,
As sturdy an Irish family
As ever could be seen.

And then we joined the Mormon Church—
Ah, surely that was grand!
And with true Irish vigor
We answered each demand.

We kept the Word of Wisdom;
We paid our tithing, too.
We all did every little thing
That we were asked to do.

We did our genealogy
There, duty was all fun.
With joyful pride we studied hard
About each Irish son,

We wrote it on the family chart
(We wrote it all in green);
Each Irish name we added on,
Each fellow, each colleen.

And then there came that frightful day
The shock we had to bear!
Father came home looking pale;
We gathered ’round his chair.

And mother’s Irish eyes were sad;
Father’s eyes were, too.
And sister’s eyes were full of tears
That washed the Irish blue.

My brothers’ splendid Irish smiles
Soon faded all away,
And all our Irish tongues were stilled,
For there was naught to say.

This thing our father told us—
Believe it? We could not!
For in our Irish line he found
Great-grandpa was a Scot!

 

Love it.

[Stargazer]

On 8/15/2016 at 11:48 PM, saemo said:

Could be basic human biology. You didn't get the Scandinavian genes. If you have siblings their results may be totally different. 

Also depends on a lot of factors, such as, different parts of Great Britain have different genes, some areas have more Scandinavian than British heritage, other areas have almost an entirely Briton heritage  

Add to that genealogy is not a genetic science. Secret adoptions can factor in.

...and secret liaisons. A few years back there was a study that showed 3/100 children were not the biological child of the father who was raising them. These are fathers who were/are unknowingly raising children who are not their own. http://national.deseretnews.com/article/2357/unknowingly-raising-another-mans-child.html

With those odds it's probable all of us have at least one male in our family tree who is not biologically related to us. Also probable we all have at least one secret or lost-to-our-knowledge adoption in the trees.  Children were orphaned more often, and raised by those who took them in. There's no way to know all the ways a child made it to the family who raised them. As you know, the further we go back the less information and intact family lore. Family histories are mostly lost to us. 

Wow, that's really something!  I know my grandfather on my father's side was a bit, shall we say, free with his wild oats, even after he married my grandmother.  One of his out-of-wedlock children (we suspect he begat at least two) was actually from the wife of one of his cousins!  So this second cousin is actually my uncle -- I've never met him.  I have another cousin who, when he was about ten years younger than now, looked rather a lot like my father at the same age.  But in his case no philandering is suspected.  There is a certain set of facial resemblance that seems common in my family.

When I was in the Army in Germany, my wife gave birth to our twins, and there was another woman in the same hospital room with her (a German woman) who had likewise just given birth.  What would have been a happy situation was not so happy for her, since the woman's baby was clearly half black -- and her husband was definitely a white German!  My wife remarked upon how worried and sad she was.  Fortunately, her husband was a forgiving soul, and took the new baby on as if he were his own.  

[Doctor Steuss]

I've been thinking of doing this, but I'm afraid what it will do to my workouts if I find out that I'm less Neanderthal than previously thought.

[silvermoon383]

Mom wanted me to do the test a few months ago (she wanted to get profiles from each part of the family (her side, Dad's side, and the "new" generation, and I got to represent the "new" generation.  The results were a mix of "no surprise there" and "where'd that come from?":

40% Ireland (no surprise)

33% Scandinavia (not terribly surprising to Mom who spearheads the genealogy)

12% Italy/Greece (no clue where that came from)

11% Great Britain (no surprise)

3% Trace (Finland/NW Russia, Europe West, European Jewish, Europe East in descending order)

 

Pretty interesting to see, not as much French in me as we would've thought, a sizable chunk of Mom's ancestry ends up there.  Guess most of my DNA came from the line after they jumped the channel in 1066.  Of course with Dad's side being primarily Irish there's no shock at all about that being the biggest piece.  But the biggest question of all is where the Italian/Greek got in there...

[saemo]

On August 24, 2016 at 0:31 AM, Stargazer said:

Wow, that's really something!  I know my grandfather on my father's side was a bit, shall we say, free with his wild oats, even after he married my grandmother.  One of his out-of-wedlock children (we suspect he begat at least two) was actually from the wife of one of his cousins!  So this second cousin is actually my uncle -- I've never met him.  I have another cousin who, when he was about ten years younger than now, looked rather a lot like my father at the same age.  But in his case no philandering is suspected.  There is a certain set of facial resemblance that seems common in my family.

When I was in the Army in Germany, my wife gave birth to our twins, and there was another woman in the same hospital room with her (a German woman) who had likewise just given birth.  What would have been a happy situation was not so happy for her, since the woman's baby was clearly half black -- and her husband was definitely a white German!  My wife remarked upon how worried and sad she was.  Fortunately, her husband was a forgiving soul, and took the new baby on as if he were his own.  

A cousin in my husband's family had a boy who became ill enough to hospitalized. Where, the boy was diagnosed with a genetic disorder that was also had by their best friend's son.  That ended that marriage. The boy who was diagnosed was 6 or 7 years old, and the man who was not the boy's biological father, had no idea until the diagnosis that his son was his friend's biological son.

[Jeanne]

13 minutes ago, saemo said:

A cousin in my husband's family had a boy who became ill enough to hospitalized. Where, the boy was diagnosed with a genetic disorder that was also had by their best friend's son.  That ended that marriage. The boy who was diagnosed was 6 or 7 years old, and the man who was not the boy's biological father, had no idea until the diagnosis that his son was his friend's biological son.

Ooooo...Ouch.  That would be a tough way to find out besides the fact.