Will our Church get involved in a big Christian issue?

[Kemara]

9 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

Answer: Don't believe me. Just read the Scientific Papers I presented, or watch the videos if you don't have access to the Papers. 

Now give me some papers from reputable Journals that prove GM Food is not safe. 

If you don't present anything, this conversation is over. I will ignore you. 

Your candid admission of dishonesty is appreciated.

If you choose to exhibit low moral character, if you choose to break your word and lie, if you wish to conduct yourself in an intellectually dishonest manner, if you are fine with unethical deceitful behaviour...then hey, whatever floats your boat. However, before we move forward with this discussion I require that you keep your word that you will answer all my questions. You do not have a choice in this matter. Keep your word or don't, the course of this discussion is entirely up to you and is based on your moral character. 

Edited March 8, 2016 by Kemara

[TheSkepticChristian]

39 minutes ago, Kemara said:

Your candid admission of dishonesty is appreciated.

If you choose to exhibit low moral character, if you choose to break your word and lie, if you wish to conduct yourself in an intellectually dishonest manner, if you are fine with unethical deceitful behaviour...then hey, whatever floats your boat. However, before we move forward with this discussion I require that you keep your word that you will answer all my questions. You do not have a choice in this matter. Keep your word or don't, the course of this discussion is entirely up to you and is based on your moral character. 

but the way, your "no consensus" article was signed by legal experts and published in a free Journal that no one is familiar with.

Just ask me 2 or 3 questions, no more than that. 

I am still waiting for a paper published in a REPUTABLE journal that proves GM food is unsafe. 

What ever, I am reporting you for calling me a liar and dishonest. 

Edited March 8, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[Kemara]

2 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

but the way, your "no consensus" article was signed by legal experts and published in a Journal that no one knows. 

Just ask me 2 or 3 questions, no more than that. 

I am still waiting for a paper published in a REPUTABLE journal that proves GM food is unsafe. 

What ever, I am reporting you for calling me a liar (in previous post) and dishonest. 

Refer to previous post.

[TheSkepticChristian]

4 minutes ago, Kemara said:

Refer to previous post.

 

7 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

but the way, your "no consensus" article was signed by legal experts and published in a free Journal that no one is familiar with.

Just ask me 2 or 3 questions, no more than that. 

I am still waiting for a paper published in a REPUTABLE journal that proves GM food is unsafe. 

What ever, I am reporting you for calling me a liar (in previous post) and dishonest. 

 

[Kemara]

Just now, TheSkepticChristian said:

 

 

Refer to previous post.

[thesometimesaint]

1 hour ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

GM animals have not been approved. 

Their own antibiotics? What? I din't think you understand what GM Food is. Direct genetic modification is a technology, not a product, nothing to do with producing their own antibiotics. 

 

Plants producing their own antibiotics through GMO.

SEE http://www.aces.uiuc.edu/vista/html_pubs/biotech/insect.htm

What is unknown at this point is what if any effects these GMO's will have on the people who eat them. Look I'm not calling for an outrigght ban or complete acceptance. I just want further study on non-humans first.

[TheSkepticChristian]

5 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

Plants producing their own antibiotics through GMO.

If true, it means that there are non-GMO plants that also produce their own antibiotics. 
GMO is simply a cut and paste gene, so they simply got it from non-GMO plants. 

Do you have a Paper from a respected Journal that proves GMO is unsafe? 

Thanks for not asking me 100 questions like Kemara, and thanks for being brief, that is how I like it. 

 

Edited March 8, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[TheSkepticChristian]

7 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

I just want further study on non-humans first.

There has been, it's been more than 20 years. When will it be enough? 

[thesometimesaint]

16 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

There has been, it's been more than 20 years. When will it be enough? 

A good longitudinal study would encompass about 3 generations or in humans about 60 years. But we don't have to wait that long depending on how much risk you're willing to take with the foods you eat. The price of failure is pretty high though. Who knows it just might work out well.

[TheSkepticChristian]

24 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

A good longitudinal study would encompass about 3 generations or in humans about 60 years. But we don't have to wait that long depending on how much risk you're willing to take with the foods you eat. The price of failure is pretty high though. Who knows it just might work out well.

but that logic can apply to anything, there are endless possibilities. Video games can cause Alzheimer's, computers can cause cancer, cell phones can cause heart disease in the distant future. For more than 20 years there has been no evidence that GM food is not safe. 

Do you have a paper from a reputable journal that proves GM Food is not safe? As a transhumanist, I am not afraid of new technology. 

Edited March 8, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[TheSkepticChristian]

Study suggests impact of climate change on agriculture may be underestimated

http://phys.org/news/2016-03-impact-climate-agriculture-underestimated.html

[Raingirl]

7 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

Yes, I also presented scientific papers, what else do you want me to do? LOL

It is just funny how many people don't like anything I say. It is ironic because Republicans do like GMO, and most people here are Republican. 

In other words, you cannot answer my questions nor anyone else's.  You just vomit out nonsensical statements (including your last sentence above), expect everyone your unfounded word as truth, and have a temper tantrum when someone points out that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

[TheSkepticChristian]

1 hour ago, Raingirl said:

In other words, you cannot answer my questions nor anyone else's.  You just vomit out nonsensical statements (including your last sentence above), expect everyone your unfounded word as truth, and have a temper tantrum when someone points out that you don't have a clue what you're talking about.

What? I did answer your question, how are scientific papers nonsensical? 

Anyways, I am so happy Sanders just won Michigan, I don't really care what anyone thinks here in the MDDB. 

[Raingirl]

44 minutes ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

What? I did answer your question, how are scientific papers nonsensical? 

Anyways, I am so happy Sanders just won Michigan, I don't really care what anyone thinks here in the MDDB. 

What question specifically did you answer?

The other question I want to ask is what your diagnosis is, but I'd probably get in trouble.

[TheSkepticChristian]

1 hour ago, Raingirl said:

What question specifically did you answer?

You said, "Are you capable of anything beyond "many reputable encyclopedias"?"
I told you : Yes, scientific papers and pew stats

You said, ""Many" is what number, exactly? What are the names of each of them? What exactly makes them "reputable? " 

Britannica is a well-known and respected encyclopedia. I think the other one was called world encyclopedia, from the Library at the University. 

Another one is called Columbia Encyclopedia. You can do your homework, just go to your local library. 

Edited March 9, 2016 by TheSkepticChristian

[thesometimesaint]

16 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

but that logic can apply to anything, there are endless possibilities. Video games can cause Alzheimer's, computers can cause cancer, cell phones can cause heart disease in the distant future. For more than 20 years there has been no evidence that GM food is not safe. 

Do you have a paper from a reputable journal that proves GM Food is not safe? As a transhumanist, I am not afraid of new technology. 

No one has to play video games, no one has to have computer, no one has to have a cell phone. Everyone has to eat. We'd need 2 control groups for each incident. One exposed, and the other not exposed.

As far as GMO goes; We do know that there is a rising level of antibiotic, and pesticide resistance in food stuffs  Now what level is considered safe for human consumption has yet to determined.

As I said we're still looking. I'm not afraid of technology either. Though there may be better ways to use that technology than others.

Edited March 9, 2016 by thesometimesaint

[Kenngo1969]

 

18 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

 

Edited March 9, 2016 by Kenngo1969

[Raingirl]

6 hours ago, TheSkepticChristian said:

You said, "Are you capable of anything beyond "many reputable encyclopedias"?"
I told you : Yes, scientific papers and pew stats

You said, ""Many" is what number, exactly? What are the names of each of them? What exactly makes them "reputable? " 

Britannica is a well-known and respected encyclopedia. I think the other one was called world encyclopedia, from the Library at the University. 

Another one is called Columbia Encyclopedia. You can do your homework, just go to your local library. 

Your dishonesty is on display once again.  As is your inability to back up any of your claims and your childish refusal to actually answer questions.

Three is "many"? And you're not even certain of the names.

And how can you not understand the reality of information in print-bound encyclopedias becoming out-of-date and obsolete?

YOU made the claims.  It is up to YOU to back them up.  Your response of "you can do your homework" is laughable.  Why should I do the work to prove you right? (Not that it's even possible)  YOU make a claim, it is on YOU to back it up.  Your refusal to do so simply proves that you cannot. How is.....I read it in some encyclopedia at some unnamed university.....proof of anything?

How does your pathetic response above prove your assertions? Don't worry about having to answer that question, I'll do it for you - it doesn't.

 

[Skylla]

This is not a productive conversation.  Thread closed. 

Skylla