VideoGameJunkie Posted February 29, 2016 Posted February 29, 2016 The movie about the Catholic church abuse scandal from my home city of Boston took home the award. I was shocked to see that, but it might shed some more light on church abuse.
Dgal Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 I thought the movie was more about the journalists who covered the scandal? Not so much the scandal itself?
RGB Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 Never watched it - didn't even know about it till now - I don't think I would watch it though cause it sounds like it'll be one of those movies that upset you and drain your PMA.
Tacenda Posted March 1, 2016 Posted March 1, 2016 RGB, go see it. I thought the same way you did. I worried it would drain me, and it would be so hard to see the abuse. But it doesn't focus so much on that. Excellent acting and such a positive thing to see something actually happen to people that hurt children. Or exposure to it. But like I said, it doesn't show any of it. Just shows this team of reporters doing some great detective work. You won't be upset as much as you will be uplifted to know that abuse like this is being addressed and not hidden. How can it as much with movies like this and with the internet etc. I'm glad that we don't put church leaders up there with God. I doubt God would want that any way. He loves his children! It's a movie that shows that there are good people out there that won't sit idly by.
sunstoned Posted March 6, 2016 Posted March 6, 2016 I was not aware of this movie until the awards. I will be sure to see it.
UtahTexan Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 The movie shows that Bernard Law is a criminal.....and is personally responsible for the abuse of possibly thousands of children. The Catholic Church knew of the crimes and let it continue for years. Prior to getting arrested, Bernard fled to Rome where he was appointed to fairly high positions in Vatican City. Instead of requiring Law to face his victims and justice, he has been allowed to stay in Vatican City. The movie ends with a map showing the many places the abuse was covered up and allowed to continue. As time has gone on, we have found out that it is not just in the USA that Catholic priests abused children. It happened in other countries as well. Pathetic
Tacenda Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 (edited) 21 hours ago, CountryBoy said: The movie shows that Bernard Law is a criminal.....and is personally responsible for the abuse of possibly thousands of children. The Catholic Church knew of the crimes and let it continue for years. Prior to getting arrested, Bernard fled to Rome where he was appointed to fairly high positions in Vatican City. Instead of requiring Law to face his victims and justice, he has been allowed to stay in Vatican City. The movie ends with a map showing the many places the abuse was covered up and allowed to continue. As time has gone on, we have found out that it is not just in the USA that Catholic priests abused children. It happened in other countries as well. Pathetic Much better and more thorough comment than mine, thank you. Edited March 7, 2016 by Tacenda 1
mtomm Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 14 hours ago, CountryBoy said: The movie shows that Bernard Law is a criminal.....and is personally responsible for the abuse of possibly thousands of children. The Catholic Church knew of the crimes and let it continue for years. Prior to getting arrested, Bernard fled to Rome where he was appointed to fairly high positions in Vatican City. Instead of requiring Law to face his victims and justice, he has been allowed to stay in Vatican City. The movie ends with a map showing the many places the abuse was covered up and allowed to continue. As time has gone on, we have found out that it is not just in the USA that Catholic priests abused children. It happened in other countries as well. Pathetic I'm not sure that CB is putting our Church above the Catholic church but the LDS Church is a glass house. We really shouldn't throw stones. I have witnessed my own leaders protect a predator over the victims ( and most assuredly future victims.) 1
UtahTexan Posted March 7, 2016 Posted March 7, 2016 6 hours ago, mtomm said: I'm not sure that CB is putting our Church above the Catholic church but the LDS Church is a glass house. We really shouldn't throw stones. I have witnessed my own leaders protect a predator over the victims ( and most assuredly future victims.) I am just stating facts. And if you have evidence of thousands and thousands of children worldwide being abused by LDS leaders, please show me. And if you have evidence where the First Presidency whisked the guilty of the country to avoid prosecution, please show me. And if you have evidence that the leadership moved the guilty from ward to ward to prey on children, please show me.
mtomm Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) 23 hours ago, CountryBoy said: And if you have evidence that the leadership moved the guilty from ward to ward to prey on children, please show me. I've often wondered what would happen if I did "go public" with the circumstance. But this isn't my story to tell. I'm not the victim, I only observed and tried to change what I could with the power that I had (which was none.) I'm left understanding that leadership makes poor choices and we just have to live with that. It also makes me much less critical of other churches and a lot more humble about my Church...hence my comment about glass houses. Please don't put words in my mouth. I never accused the First Presidency of wrong doing, nor did I claim thousands and thousands of victims. Just a cautionary comment about our own vulnerability. Edited March 8, 2016 by mtomm 1
UtahTexan Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 (edited) 13 minutes ago, mtomm said: I've often wondered what would happen if I did "go public" with the circumstance. But this isn't my story to tell. I'm not the victim, I only observed and tried to change what I could with the power that I had (which was none.) I'm left understanding that leadership makes poor choices and we just have to live with that. It also makes me much less critical of other churches and a lot more humble about my Church...hence my comment about glass houses. Please don't put words in my mouth. I never accused the First Presidency of wrong doing, nor did I claim thousands and thousands of victims. Just a cautionary comment about our own vulnerability. There is no vulnerability. You may be able to show an isolated case here and there of someone who did wrong...but you can't show anything like what hundreds of priests did to thousands of children while protected by a plethora of Bishops and hidden by the Pope. But....on a humorous note...Catholics have been afraid of me since I converted. It is pretty funny So, your comments are a little odd Edited March 8, 2016 by CountryBoy 1
mtomm Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 4 minutes ago, CountryBoy said: There is no vulnerability. You may be able to show an isolated case here and there of someone who did wrong...but you can't show anything like what hundreds of priests did to thousands of children while protected by a plethora of Bishops and hidden by the Pope. So, your comments are a little odd No vulnerability? Even those isolated cases still represent victims. It's doesn't have to be overwhelmingly bad to still be bad. All I am asking for is humility. I never said we were as bad as the Catholic church, you are saying I said it. 1
UtahTexan Posted March 8, 2016 Posted March 8, 2016 10 minutes ago, mtomm said: No vulnerability? Even those isolated cases still represent victims. It's doesn't have to be overwhelmingly bad to still be bad. All I am asking for is humility. I never said we were as bad as the Catholic church, you are saying I said it. I made a specific case about how a CHURCH and its leaders destroyed thousands of lives. You try to equate it with isolated cases not supported by a church. My gosh....did you just need to see yourself in a post or something? 1
ChristKnight Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 Hadn't heard of this movie before reading this thread, thanks for sharing. For those interested in reading some reviews by Catholics, I found these interesting: http://ncronline.org/blogs/parish-diary/watching-and-responding-spotlight http://www.ncregister.com/daily-news/sdg-reviews-spotlight/ http://www.catholicnews.com/services/englishnews/2015/spotlight.cfm
UtahTexan Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 What I find wrong with the reviews is that, while the movie IS about Boston, the end of the movie shows it was just one small part of the abuse of thousands upon thousands of abused children. And what Law did was done by bishop after bishop. The Bernard Law episode shows me the Pope never truly understood
mtomm Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 7 hours ago, CountryBoy said: I made a specific case about how a CHURCH and its leaders destroyed thousands of lives. You try to equate it with isolated cases not supported by a church. My gosh....did you just need to see yourself in a post or something? So now along with misrepresenting my comments you have resorted to insults. 1
Skylla Posted March 9, 2016 Posted March 9, 2016 This isn't a Social Hall topic. Thread closed. Skylla
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