stephenpurdy Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 This is excellent. Evangelicals (as well as many LDS, Catholics, etc).... We can do well to learn from this. -Stephen 3
stephenpurdy Posted November 7, 2015 Author Posted November 7, 2015 Excellent points on Biblical interpretation, ancient culture, etc. from a NON-LDS scholar. I love his points about the Temple. -Stephen
Ahab Posted November 7, 2015 Posted November 7, 2015 Is that from John Sr or John boy Walton?I'm guessing John boy.I think of scripture as what explains what happened and will happen, and why, while science mostly is about trying to figure out if what God says through scripture is true.
Popular Post Robert F. Smith Posted November 8, 2015 Popular Post Posted November 8, 2015 What is excellent? I don't see anything.It is a good day and even extraordinary when scholars from other Christian churches agree with us that the Creation and Garden Story are "temple texts." This is fundamental to our esoteric endowment ritual. They also agree with us that much of what is described in those texts is archetypal or symbolic. In so doing, they are following great scholars like Tom Wright and Larry Stager. See, for example, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxQpFosrTUk . 5
stephenpurdy Posted November 8, 2015 Author Posted November 8, 2015 (edited) What is excellent? I don't see anything. I guess the link just doesn't work for you? For me it shows a presentation by John Walton, who is an Old Testament scholar. Here is a PDF link to a much earlier essay, http://www.blackhawkchurch.org/archive/sermon_resources/walton.pdf Just reading the first page is enough to get the drift. Keep in mind that in the video, he does not discount the idea that Adam and Eve are real individuals, he seems very open to the idea that they were. Of course, he does , as typical of most Christians, have a negative view of the fall, but otherwise his perspectives are very much compatible with LDS views. I also like how he attempts to prevent Christians who believe in evolution and those who don't from pitting against each other. -Stephen Edited November 9, 2015 by stephenpurdy 2
mfbukowski Posted November 9, 2015 Posted November 9, 2015 (edited) Never mind Edited November 9, 2015 by mfbukowski
Robert F. Smith Posted November 10, 2015 Posted November 10, 2015 N.T. Wright on Adam and Eve https://youtu.be/3BP1PpDyDCw . Before returning to academia (St Andrews Univ.), Tom Wright was the Anglican Bishop of Durham, England. He is highly respected by both secular scholars and the faithful.
JeremyOrbe-Smith Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Finally had a little time to watch this, and apart from the Original Sin bits at the end propounding a negative view of the 'Fall' and wanting to be like the Gods, most of it really is quite good. I've been saying a lot of this stuff for years; this will be a handy little resource to direct people towards in the future. Thanks for pointing it out. (As usual, I still wish everyone interested in the ancient cosmology would do themselves a favor and read Hamlet's Mill. The ancient worldview is not the anti-scientific superstitious silliness it is often made out to be.) Edited November 18, 2015 by JeremyOrbe-Smith 1
stephenpurdy Posted November 21, 2015 Author Posted November 21, 2015 (edited) Finally had a little time to watch this, and apart from the Original Sin bits at the end propounding a negative view of the 'Fall' and wanting to be like the Gods, most of it really is quite good. I've been saying a lot of this stuff for years; this will be a handy little resource to direct people towards in the future. Thanks for pointing it out. (As usual, I still wish everyone interested in the ancient cosmology would do themselves a favor and read Hamlet's Mill. The ancient worldview is not the anti-scientific superstitious silliness it is often made out to be.) I agree that his view of the Fall is a little off, otherwise it was great. Try these for a more LDS view of the Fall; they are shorter in length: -Stephen Edited November 21, 2015 by stephenpurdy
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