Is There An Apologist Response To Quinn's Article About Women And The Priesthood

[Mike Reed]

Why apologetic? Why not just well researched and persuasively argued?

[Mike Reed]

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Edited September 17, 2013 by Mike Reed

[why me]

Well, it hasn't been that long since women were literally whipped and beaten by males....but apparently they used it as motivation to achieve.  This sounds more and more like a Darwinian kind of problem than a feminist one.

And yet, more and more women are whipping and beating their guys. People are becoming more violent and domestic violence is now shared between males and females. We are living in a social darwinian environment which creates the violence.

 

 

Edited September 17, 2013 by why me

[BlueDreams]

And yet, more and more women are whipping and beating their guys. People are becoming more violent and domestic violence is now shared between males and females. We are living in a social darwinian environment which creates the violence.

 

From my readings on ethics today there was a stat about partner violence: Among couples seeking outpatient counseling, in the past 12 months, 36-58% have experienced male-to-female violence and 37-57% have experienced female-to-male  violence. So basically around the same amount. The difference (relying on another study I'd read a while back) was on the type, motive, and severity. I can't say whether people actually are becoming more violent or trends within domestic violence. It varies from culture to culture and place to place. But whatever it is, it has little to do with feminism. In fact the areas where violence is markedly worse (say in south Africa) it is often for the fact that women have less power and esteem in family/social dynamics. Women gaining more rights, esteem, and social capacities has nothing to do with whether men  are all the sudden without direction or responsibilities. In fact numbers wise the opposite is found. Where societies that have greater rights are more stable and less violent (overall) than those that have greater disparities between the genders. Men's failures simply can't be hung up on women's success or some crazy feminist infiltration when feminism is not even a unified similarly objective group.

 

With luv,

BD

Edited September 18, 2013 by BlueDreams

[sunstoned]

Women have been whipped and beaten by masculinism for thousands of years, yet we have managed to rise above it.

If men are being similarly mistreated, (and they aren't, they still have a lot of advantages that women don't yet, but that's not to say they aren't being demasculated in some ways) then they have it their power to change that, just as women did.

Men don't have to be victims.

I agree totally.  I also agree that the idea that men are being mistreated is overblown.  In fact I don't understand this reasoning.  We should be celebrating our progression as a society and as a nation.

 

Diversity is a good thing.