"And The King Of The West Shall Return Home Worn Out ..."

[EllenMaksoud]

More than 50 years ago, I was working in the kitchen of a large hospital and one of the men I worked with set his mind to straightening me out. What a fools errand that was ! So, one day he walked up to me and handed me a book that could either have been a Mormon book or perhaps a Jehovahs Witness book.

Since I was confined to my room when I got home, except for meals, I read anything I could get my hands on. One thing that I remember in that book is the Quote that is the title of this thread. The other day I was looking for it with google and lately google seems to have Alzheimers.

From reading LDS publications, I doubt that we did it. Is this familiar to anyone? I do not think it is Nostradamus.

[Duncan]

hmmmmm, sounds like what would be 'The Autobiography of the the Wonderful Wizard of Oz of which is Me' haha!

[Questing Beast]

It sounds like a paraphrase of Daniel, where the "king" is the One World Gov't monarch, who arose from obscurity and even ignominy, with few followers (though obviously very powerful ones), and seized power over the whole world. His end is to march back into the "east country" and fall ignominiously. After his fall, infighting among his enemies will bring down the One World Gov't in self-perpetuated violence. This is all supposed to happen just before Jesus Christ reappears....

[USU78]

I'm thinking Arthurian . . . there are so many treatments of the old tales and legends that it'd be tough to pinpoint it.

Arthur, mortally wounded after killing Mordred in single combat, is assisted in tossing Excalibur into the Lake for the Lady of the Lake to retrieve, following which he is taken on ship into the West for healing on Avalon, a mystical island, from whence he is to return to make the world right again.

[mfbukowski]

Typically the west represents the land of the dead, or endings and the east, new life. (sunrise in the east, sunset in the west)(Think of cowboys riding into the sunset at the end of movies!)

So the king of the west sounds like some god of the dead to me, returning perhaps after a conflict of some kind, for some purpose "east" of him- perhaps to be re-born, etc???

Strictly a guess!

[EllenMaksoud]

It sounds like a paraphrase of Daniel, where the "king" is the One World Gov't monarch, who arose from obscurity and even ignominy, with few followers (though obviously very powerful ones), and seized power over the whole world. His end is to march back into the "east country" and fall ignominiously. After his fall, infighting among his enemies will bring down the One World Gov't in self-perpetuated violence. This is all supposed to happen just before Jesus Christ reappears....

This was someone's religious book, so I think I'll have a good read of Daniel. Thank you.

[CASteinman]

"The King of the West" is sometimes a term used by theorists about 'the anti-Christ' or wars at 'the end'. It is obscure though.

I am interested to see if anyone in this amazing forum will have heard of this reference.

[MormonMason]

This was someone's religious book, so I think I'll have a good read of Daniel. Thank you.

I highly doubt that is an LDS source. There also is no mention of a "king of the west" in Daniel. There are kings of the north and south, however, but these refer in the main to the wars involving the Seleucids and Ptolemies. I do, however, seem to recall that a piece of Islamic "predictive" literature mentions a "king of the west," but not by name. It could also be a piece of JW literature or even a variant reading of a quatrain of Nostradamus, but I have no way to check any of that as things stand at the moment and for the near, foreseeable future.

[Ahab]

More than 50 years ago, I was working in the kitchen of a large hospital and one of the men I worked with set his mind to straightening me out. What a fools errand that was ! So, one day he walked up to me and handed me a book that could either have been a Mormon book or perhaps a Jehovahs Witness book.

Since I was confined to my room when I got home, except for meals, I read anything I could get my hands on. One thing that I remember in that book is the Quote that is the title of this thread. The other day I was looking for it with google and lately google seems to have Alzheimers.

From reading LDS publications, I doubt that we did it. Is this familiar to anyone? I do not think it is Nostradamus.

More clues, please. Be more of a detective in your own mind. Think back on that time when you read that book. Imagine it, slowly. You can think of something else you read in that book. Yes, you can do it. A thought. An image. More words.

[EllenMaksoud]

More clues, please. Be more of a detective in your own mind. Think back on that time when you read that book. Imagine it, slowly. You can think of something else you read in that book. Yes, you can do it. A thought. An image. More words.

Well, I am reasonably certain that it was some denomination's "Bible". Having been Ev, I know it is not theirs. I do not think it is some obscure version the Amish or Menonites might use. I am reasonably certain that it contained the standard version of the OT, and I think it contained Mathew, Mark, Luke and John. I may have read Acts, but after that, I sensed a harshness that was not of Jesus Christ, and decided that I did not like those guys. Keep in mind that there was not any Christian learning in our house. I was grounded except for my summer job, and was not allowed out, no friends over, no phone calls. I had previously run away to escape the beatings and alchohol. I was pretty angry, but obeyed upon the promise of worse did I not.

Right after that, I decided that if there was a God, he was ignoring me, and did not have another thing to do with religion until I was in my late 20's.