Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Again why do you associate a body with perfection? Because God wouldn
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, So you are saying that "human" means sinful flesh? That doesn't make sense. How about Adam? He had a body before he even committed a transgression. Was he still a human?Adam was a living soul prior to his disobedience. What follows is a fallen mankind.Because God wouldn
Big Dogger Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Trinitarians for some reason like to overcomplicate matters and make all things incomprehensible. Paul,I'm horrified that anyone would imply that we can comprehend the greatness, glory, power and nature of God.Overcomplicate things?!?! You have got to be kidding. The odds of putting the numbers 1 - 10 in a bag and pulling them out in order is about a million to one. Something as "simple" as that is so difficult to accomplish...but you think we overcomplicate God and creation?Have some respect for the glory of God!Peace be with you.
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Jam 3:9 Therewith bless we God, even the Father; and therewith curse we men, which are made after the similitude of God.Deuteronomy 415 Take ye therefore good heed unto yourselves; for ye saw no manner of similitude on the day that the LORD spake unto you in Horeb out of the midst of the fire:
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,God is a Man. He sits on a throne. He holds a book in his hand. The throne is surrounded by witnesses. Christ comes and takes the book out of the Father's hand. Col 1:15 ... Sounds like an invisiable God Phil 3:21 ... men can have a glorious bodyHbr 1:3 ... express image is not a physical image2Cr 4:4 ... Chirst is the image but not the physical imageRev 5:7 ... right hand in a vision
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, God is not partial because he is perfectly righteousEarlier you said that the Father was a sinner ... now are you saying he was "perfectly righteous" ... you would agree that their is a difference. Christ got a body. Did he change? His body changed to a glorified body. So tell me, why doesn
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul,If you claim that God was once a man...was his God once a man as well? And his God once a man before him? And so on and so forth?Was there a point where this chain of God's began? Or has this been going on for all time?Peace be with you Ahhh, finally someone who is really thinking!! Thank you.Yes, God
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,There never was a first God and there will never be a last God. What is the ultimate source of divinity if the Father was a sinner and not divine?
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 You would agree that man can be "changed into the same image from glory to glory" (2Cor 3:18)Yes, because Christ showed us the way.Seth but again this does not reveal that the Father is in the physical image of Seth.I think it does. Christ was made physically in the image of his Father as man was made in the image of God. God said that both Christ and Adam are made in his image. That
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 So you are saying his flesh isn't divine?Yes I
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,I think it does. Christ was made physically in the image of his Father as man was made in the image of God. I would differ ... God said that both Christ and Adam are made in his image. But God did not reveal God is made in Adam's physcial image.
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,>>So you are saying his flesh isn't divine?>YesI
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,I already told you that, Johnny. Heavenly Father is the ultimate source and he got it from his Father who in turn got it from his, and so forth - forever. But who is "so forth"?Who glorfied the sinful Mormon Father?Who was the savior of the sinful Mormon Father?
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Adam was a living soul prior to his disobedience. What follows is a fallen mankind.You equate flesh with that which is sinful and don
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,You equate flesh with that which is sinful and don
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Trinitarians for some reason like to overcomplicate matters and make all things incomprehensible. Paul,I'm horrified that anyone would imply that we can comprehend the greatness, glory, power and nature of God.Overcomplicate things?!?! You have got to be kidding. The odds of putting the numbers 1 - 10 in a bag and pulling them out in order is about a million to one. Something as "simple" as that is so difficult to accomplish...but you think we overcomplicate God and creation?Have some respect for the glory of God!Peace be with you. Where was the greatness, glory, and power of the Trinity for eternal past before he made his very first thing or uttered his first decree? That may be what God is to you, but not me. Perhaps you might like to elaborate how such a being has come from eternity? What did he do with himself?Peace to you too.Paul O
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes,Perhaps you might like to elaborate how such a being has come from eternity? What did he do with himself?Perhaps you could elaborate on the following:Who is "so forth"?Who glorfied the sinful Mormon Father?Who was the savior of the sinful Mormon Father?What is the ultimate source of divinity?
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 His body changed to a glorified body.But he changed! God doesn't change; or does he?Because he is the mediator between God and man.So tell me, does that mean that once we are all in heaven safely
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