Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 God transcends all creatures. We must therefore continually purify our language of everything in it that is limited, image-bound or imperfect, if we are not to confuse our image of God
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, And how would it affect his divine nature had he not ever got a body? Chirst's divine nature is not affected ...
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 But was the Father divine before his incarnation?You have said the Father was not divine after his incarnation.That's right. He WASN'T a God.Why was Christ divine after his incarnation and the Father was not divine after his incarnation?Doesn't the Bible reveal that the Son only does what he has seen the Father do before him. The Son does the works of his righteous Father. He was sent and does his Father
Big Dogger Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 "Christ, . . . in the very revelation of the mystery of the Father and of his love, makes man fully manifest to himself and brings to light his exalted vocation." It is in Christ, "the image of the invisible God," that man has been created "in the image and likeness" of the Creator. It is in Christ, Redeemer and Savior, that the divine image, disfigured in man by the first sin, has been restored to its original beauty and ennobled by the grace of God.
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 I would agree that God transcends all creatures and we are not to confuse our image of God with our human representations. And we wouldn't want to confuse the image of Seth with that of Adam's? Paul O
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, And we wouldn't want to confuse the image of Seth with that of Adam's? How do you restore an image?
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Are you saying his body isn't divine? I am saying his body is flesh.
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Again .... His human nature was made perfect ... his divine nature was not made perfect.Jesus the Christ is True God and True man. Yes, he was true. But he had to have a body or he couldn
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Define human. Romans 83 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: Yes, he was true. But he had to have a body or he couldn
Paul Osborne Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 "Christ, . . . in the very revelation of the mystery of the Father and of his love, makes man fully manifest to himself and brings to light his exalted vocation." It is in Christ, "the image of the invisible God," that man has been created "in the image and likeness" of the Creator. It is in Christ, Redeemer and Savior, that the divine image, disfigured in man by the first sin, has been restored to its original beauty and ennobled by the grace of God. Adam was made in the image of God and Seth was made in the image of Adam.What does that tell you?Paul O
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Adam was made in the image of God and Seth was made in the image of Adam.What does that tell you?It does not tell us anyting about the image of God, the Father ...
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, All I know is that the Father was once a man, mortal like me. I suppose he was a sinner too. It's possible he was ordained a God before his mortal sojourn - no one knows.This seems to be inconsistent with the idea that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity.
Big Dogger Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul,If you claim that God was once a man...was his God once a man as well? And his God once a man before him? And so on and so forth?Was there a point where this chain of God's began? Or has this been going on for all time?Peace be with you
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, >How do you restore an image? You
johnny Posted November 27, 2004 Posted November 27, 2004 Big Dogger writes, Was there a point where this chain of God's began? Or has this been going on for all time? Paul was is the ultimate source of divinity?
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