johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Oh, I see. So you mean to tell me that the divine incantation of,
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 How strange, because clearly the Bible does not reveal this.That
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 The Father and the Spirit are one in being.The Son of God was not lacking being God.
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 I am telling you the Bible does not reveal what the first thing was ... what do the Mormon scriptures reveal?The Son of God did not say it ... God said it. Mormon scripture doesn
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Image a God that simply wills creation out of nothing ...
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 The Father and the Spirit are one in being.So that means they didn
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Image a God that simply wills creation out of nothing ... I can
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Johnny, do you believe your Trinity God is all knowing prior to the time it made its very first thing?Paul O
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, So that means they didn
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Johnny, do you believe your Trinity God is all knowing prior to the time it made its very first thing?Yes God is all knowing. God is not bound to space and time.
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 One in being does not ignore that they are different persons.But they were speechless prior to the time of the first incantation. This means the Trinity was a mute.He was sent to be the mediator between God and man.Yes, but he wasn't yet perfect because he didn't have a body. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Prior to getting his body there was no fulness.Walking on water and raising the dead also goes against the laws of physics as man knows them ... Jesus merely used higher laws of physics that we don
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, But they were speechless prior to the time of the first incantation. This means the Trinity was a mute.This means the Bible does not reveal this ... what do the Mormon scriptures reveal?Yes, but he wasn't yet perfect because he didn't have a body. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Prior to getting his body there was no fulness.Prior to getting a body he was God. God is perfect.Jesus merely used higher laws of physics that we don
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Yes, but he wasn't yet perfect because he didn't have a body. Col 2:9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Prior to getting his body there was no fulness.Prior to getting a body he was God. God is perfect. No, he was not perfect! According to Trinity doctrine he didn
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Paul Osborne writes, Apparently there are several things the Bible doesn't reveal.Apparently the Mormon scriptures don't reveal everything ...Is that right? The Bible does not reveal this ... what do the Mormon scriptures reveal?
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 His Father made something out of nothing. I don't believe that. That's you talking, not the Bible. Show me in the Bible where it says God brings into existence matter out of nothing. Then, I might have cause to believe you. Otherwise, you are putting words into the Bible, and that's adding to the word.Paul O
rolothedodo Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 How many views of the trinity are there?
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 So you believe the Trinity never learned anything but always knew everything?Jesus who was True man who learned wisdom. The Father and the Son are seperate persons, the Son did not know the end time because it was under the Father's authority. Oh, so you are telling me that prior to the Trinity making its first thing, Jesus was learning at the feet of his Father? You would have me believe that he was learning forever past at the feet of his Father? If he was learning wisdom this would suggest that he didn
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Prior to getting his body there could be no fullness. Perhaps you would like to explain how the Trinity had the fullness in its Godhead without a body? I
johnny Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 rolothedodo writes,How many views of the trinity are there? The Athanasian Creed reveals the trinity (see the link below):http://www.aboutcatholics.com/viewpage.php?story=3
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 So you believe the Trinity never learned anything but always knew everything?Jesus who was True man who learned wisdom. The Father and the Son are seperate persons, the Son did not know the end time because it was under the Father's authority. Oh, so you are telling me that prior to the Trinity making its first thing, Jesus was learning at the feet of his Father? You would have me believe that he was learning forever past at the feet of his Father? If he was learning wisdom this would suggest that he didn
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Athanasian Creed"What quality the Father has, the Son has, and the Holy Spirit has."According to Johnny, however, Jesus doesn't have the same amount of wisdom as the Father did. He said, "the Son did not know the end time because it was under the Father's authority". Apparently the Trinity Son lacks in the quality of wisdom.The Mormon Christ isn't that way. He has all wisdom and doesn't learn new wisdom.Paul O
Paul Osborne Posted November 26, 2004 Posted November 26, 2004 Athanasian Creed"their glory equal, their majesty coeternal"Except of course when it comes to knowing things.Paul O
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