Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:belief that the three persons of the Trinity are merely different modes or aspects of God, rather than three distinct persons**Well than you have a God who talks to himself, carries on conversations with himself as well as occupies two locations in space simultaneously.Which still makes no sense. I don't mean this disrespectfully, however...Have you ever talked to yourself? I find myself talking to myself a lot before, during and after writing these posts.By your belief system, you can be a god someday...and I bet that you talk to yourself from time to time. Peace be with you.
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 God is one...but not solitary.One: Characterized by unity; undivided**Solitary: Existing, living, or going without others or Single and set apart from othersGod cannot be one and not solitary at the same time. It contradictory!!!
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 God cannot be one and not solitary at the same time. It contradictory!!! It is contradictory to believe that God is eternal yet a man that attained Godhood.
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:Have you ever talked to yourself?**Yes. But I don
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:Have you ever talked to yourself?**Yes. But I don
Fiat Lux Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I'm not a chemist, but this is interesting nonetheless.The Thermodynamical Triple Point: Implications for the TrinityAt the triple point, water has "a singular essence, yet possesses three subsistences which have real distinctions among them".
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:It is contradictory to believe that God is eternal yet a man that attained Godhood.**I started to type a response to this explaining the Latter-day Saint position than I realized that you are committing a logical fallacy. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html
Tanyan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Comparing The GOD with a "Sale's Training Course"???.
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Comparing The GOD with a "Sale's Training Course"???. Of course not...just trying to lighten the mood.
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:Then you have never taken a sales training course.**Obviously not. But than people know I am talking to myself. Did Jesus knowingly deceive us by making it seem there was something else out there he was talking to. As well as throwing his voice to make it seem more convincing?Super
johnny Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Tanyan writes,Have "spark" of divine nature. Can you totally become the divine nature?What did Joseph Smith mean when he taught that men can become God?
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I started to type a response to this explaining the Latter-day Saint position than I realized that you are committing a logical fallacy. http://www.fallacyfiles.org/tuquoque.html Two wrongs making a right?Please explain.
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Did Jesus knowingly deceive us by making it seem there was something else out there he was talking to. As well as throwing his voice to make it seem more convincing?Super Did Jesus knowingly deceive us by telling us the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. Then a few years later it did?
Tanyan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Johnny you know, please don't play games !. You have been through this Dozens of times before with us. Colossians 2:8.
Tanyan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 BD, I think the Greek on that is not in agreement with your view. Perhaps someone can post what is being said in the Greek Text.
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:Two wrongs making a right?Please explain.**What I believe is irrelevant to the discussion at hand.For example:Person 1: You stole something, that
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Big Dogger wrote:Did Jesus knowingly deceive us by telling us the gates of hell shall not prevail against His Church. Then a few years later it did? **Oops, another fallacy of issue avoidance.Answer the question.
Fiat Lux Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Did Jesus knowingly deceive us by making it seem there was something else out there he was talking to. As well as throwing his voice to make it seem more convincing?Super We've told you that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct persons. So no, obviously not.
Alexander Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Fiat Lux wrote:We've told you that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct persons. So no, obviously not. **Well Big Dogger is saying that they are the same person... but not... but the same person... but not... but whatever. It
johnny Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Tanyan writes,Johnny you know, please don't play games !. You have been through this Dozens of times before with us. Colossians 2:8. How can wanting to know what Joseph Smith meant when he taught that "men can become God" be playing games ... this is apologetics?Col 2:8 is speaking of carnal matters ... I am asking you about spiritual matters?
Fiat Lux Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Fiat Lux wrote:We've told you that the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are distinct persons. So no, obviously not. **Well Big Dogger is saying that they are the same person... but not... but the same person... but not... but whatever. It
Big Dogger Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Alexander,I know you believe firmly that there are possibly millions of gods out there. I understand yet disagree.Scripture tells us over and over and over that there is one God. Even the BoM makes that claim in a number of places, yet you dismiss it. JS had an evolving concept of God (Godhead)...I know you don't want to admit it, but it is true. History does back that up.Only one.Only one.Only one.Jesus told us that he was God. Not a God. God sent us the Holy Spirit. We see three persons in one God. Don't keep trying to logically reason out the Trinity. FAITH...it's all about FAITH. Jesus told us that he was God. Jesus told us that there is but ONE GOD. Have FAITH in what the Savior tells us. You don't have to logically rationalize it. Is your FAITH in Christ or Joseph Smith? I know you hate to have that question posed...but who is your Savior? God is more than YOU. God is more than ME. Always has been!! Always will be!! Don't try to bring God down to our level.Most people have a hard enough time trying to figure out their spouse, good luck with a "definition" of the mystery of the Holy Trinity.Peace be with you.
Tanyan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 Johnny, Johnny, Johnny, You are in SDS mode Again !!!. Col 2:8= Philosophies and Traditions of men = "STAY AWAY" !. What do you mean wanting to know ...., you have been through this before ADINFINENTUM with us, Come on you arn't serious are you ?.
Tanyan Posted December 2, 2004 Posted December 2, 2004 I must go, its almost time for "Dr.PHIL". Maybe his program today wi ll be on SDS SYNDROM, and Checking all available refrences before making statements. Later.
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