White Horse Prophecy: Constitution Hanging By A Thread & The Elders Of Israel

[Zakuska]

It is about the prophecy. Romney is merely a side point about it.

Especially since Romney finds him self in the unique position as Joseph Smith did (In line to fill the position of the "most powerful man in the world" as the news calls it) to do exactly what the Constition prophecy says.

It seems I have conflated the "White Horse Prophecy" with the "Constitution Prophecy".

[Zakuska]

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<p> What do you want to talk about? This alleged prophecy has been debunked by authorities for a very, very long time. </div>

"Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine 2nd edition, (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), 835."

You are Joking right Juliann? Perhaps this was one of those things that wasn't realy "Mormon Doctrine" in that book?

It appears I have conflated two Prophecies.

See post #21.

List of prophets since Brigham Young who have quoted the Prophecy.

http://www.mormondia...__p__1209120648

So who do we beleive? All these "Prophets" of the Church or "Elder" McConkie who wasn't even an Apostle yet?

[thesometimesaint]

Avatar4321:

I have no problem with politics or religion. It is when the two get mixed that problems arise. Mixing abuses both. In religion I try to do as God tells me. In politics I vote my own best self interest.

[BCSpace]

Romney would NOT know the Constitution if it knocked him upside the head.

Actually, he seems to be the only one who knew the difference between the state's ability to regulate and the federal government's more than any other in the health care debate.

For those who weren't aware, the Church has officially discredited the White Horse Prophecy.

Of course it did. Does that come as a surprise to anybody? I mean, a prophecy about the elders of the church fixing, possibly taking over the government? Hahaha! They dropped that faster than plural marriage!

They didn't drop it because it was never adopted in the first place, not being officially published.

[thesometimesaint]

BCSpace:

Read the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution. Also Romney as governor promoted his RomneyCare plan as a "Model for the National government". Also the Founders didn't have a problem with requiring private merchant ship owners to buy health insurance for the crew.

[Zakuska]

BCSpace:

Read the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution. Also Romney as governor promoted his RomneyCare plan as a "Model for the National government". Also the Founders didn't have a problem with requiring private merchant ship owners to buy health insurance for the crew.

"The Commerce Clause is an enumerated power listed in the United States Constitution (Article I, Section 8, Clause 3). The clause states that the United States Congress shall have power "To regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes." Courts and commentators have tended to discuss each of these three areas of commerce as a separate power granted to Congress. It is not uncommon to see the individual components of the Commerce Clause referred to under specific terms: The Foreign Commerce Clause, the Interstate Commerce Clause,[1] and the Indian Commerce Clause."

Ok... so Congress can regulate the Insurance companies (re: pre-existing conditions, people being able to move from state to state, job to job, and keep the same insurance.) But for the FG to mandate it on the Citizenship? Only a State has that power. Notice that the FED in the instance of Ships and Insurance isn't mandating to an individual Citizen, But a Commercial Entity.

PS. "Models" don't allways reflect the finished product. Components are often modified before final production.

[BCSpace]

Read the Commerce Clause of the US Constitution. Also Romney as governor promoted his RomneyCare plan as a "Model for the National government".

Romney correctly deduced that the Mass plan is constitutional whereas the Federal plan is not. Of all the candidates for POTUS, he is the only one.

[T-Shirt]

Her comments received a big round of applause from the audience.

This is a disgusting hack job of reporting what actually happened. Do you ever check the accuracy of the things you link to? When the lady made the offending comment, first, it was obviously sad to someone next to her rather than into the mic, it was very difficult to hear, second, there was not a single applause for the comment. The applause came later, after she asked her question. I, frankly, doubt anyone in the crowd was even able to hear the comment.

While he was apparently unwilling to say it to the woman’s face

Oh, please, how could anyone possible know this.

, when asked if he agreed with the woman by reporters after the event, Romney said, “No, of course not.”

Exactly. You would be hard pressed to find many Romney supporters who would agree with her.

[ERayR]

Romney would NOT know the Constitution if it knocked him upside the head.

I am afraid to answer your obviously partisan political post lest I get banned. Suffice it to say your analysis is factually lacking in the extreme.

[juliann]

"Bruce R. McConkie, Mormon Doctrine 2nd edition, (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), 835."

You are Joking right Juliann? Perhaps this was one of those things that wasn't realy "Mormon Doctrine" in that book?

It appears I have conflated two Prophecies.

See post #21.

List of prophets since Brigham Young who have quoted the Prophecy.

http://www.mormondia...__p__1209120648

So who do we beleive? All these "Prophets" of the Church or "Elder" McConkie who wasn't even an Apostle yet?

Well, we should believe modern prophets but some prefer the long dead ones. A couple of random statements about the Constitution, one saying flat out he can't even remember exactly what was said just seems a little sketchy when trying to apply it to one man today. Especially since no one ever said one man would be responsible for anything.

[thesometimesaint]

ERayR:

I belong to no political party. Quite frankly they all disgust me.

[ERayR]

ERayR:

I belong to no political party. Quite frankly they all disgust me.

ERayR:

I belong to no political party. Quite frankly they all disgust me.

That does not change the nature of your comment. I repeat analysis is factually lacking in the extreme.

[thesometimesaint]

ERayR:

Nope. Watch the video, and compare it to McCains' reaction to the same type of comment.

[ERayR]

ERayR:

Nope. Watch the video, and compare it to McCains' reaction to the same type of comment.

Which has absolutely nothing to do with Romney's knowledge of the constitution.

[Hestia]

Prophecy gone political.