Messenger Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 (edited) I thought President Dieter Uchtdorf's talk was awesome. If there is anything that almost everyone, and nearly every ward needs to work on, its not harboring resentment towards others for what others say or do. It seems to be a vicious cycle and quickly breaks down the loving spirit of what a ward should have."We are not perfect, the people around us are not perfect. People do things that are Annoying, disappoint and anger. In this mortal life it will always be that way, nevertheless we must let go of our grievances"His advice runs deep in every aspect of the ward.1) Who we support in their callings.2) Who we associate with in the ward.3) Who we choose to serve.4) And who we ignore.Perhaps we all have a long way to go.Source talk: http://www.lds.org/g...950013001&cid=4 Edited April 2, 2012 by Messenger
Sky Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 It was a great message, but easier said than done. I think it takes a real, consecrated effort to make this happen. We could certainly use it on this board, too.
CV75 Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 I thought President Dieter Uchtdorf's talk was awesome. If there is anything that almost everyone, and nearly every ward needs to work on, its not harboring resentment towards others for what others say or do.While unforgiving and contentious attitudes were the subject of his talk, I find the method applicable to any other unrighteous attitude.
zerinus Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 I thought President Dieter Uchtdorf's talk was awesome. If there is anything that almost everyone, and nearly every ward needs to work on, its not harboring resentment towards others for what others say or do. It seems to be a vicious cycle and quickly breaks down the loving spirit of what a ward should have.He missed out on an important scripture though:Matthew 18:17 . . . but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican.
Rivers Posted April 2, 2012 Posted April 2, 2012 He missed out on an important scripture though:Matthew 18:17 . . . but if he neglect to hear the church, let him be unto thee as an heathen man and a publican. I thought the bumper sticker he quoted said everything that needed to be said. 1
Flyonthewall Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 My wife thought it was a take off on a Madtv skit with Bob Newhart...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYLMTvxOaeE 4
Messenger Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 My wife thought it was a take off on a Madtv skit with Bob Newhart...Oh man I just couldnt stop laughing at Bob Newhart! That was awesome!
Messenger Posted April 3, 2012 Author Posted April 3, 2012 (edited) While unforgiving and contentious attitudes were the subject of his talk, I find the method applicable to any other unrighteous attitude.CV75,I think you are right. We can say that we forgive someone, and in a small way we have. But sometimes we still harbor ill feelings which can spread to more parts of our lives. What I have found is that when I reach that point, all it takes is a prayer to find a way to forgive someone, and it happens. I'm not sure how that is possible, but it works. Like he said, there is nobody that is immune from it and we all need to work on it. This morning I was thinking of a previous ward I was in years and years ago. The bishop asked someone new in the ward if she could help out. I'm not sure she had a calling but she went right to work closing the overflow off. I thought that was odd. I like a little room in the pew and don't like to be shoulder to shoulder with someone. Plus, I know there were people that smoked or chewed that were trying to be active. For them, it allowed them to attend church, and then leave for their nicotine fit! LOL. I always thought if we didn't have it, they simply wouldn't come to church. Plus, I liked meeting some of the inactive people back there and introducing myself the them. So I brought it up to the bishop, with great care and a lot of respect, I gave my input. He said, "thank you for bringing that up. I know you like to meet with the less active folks. But, I think we are going to give this a try." That's all he said, and I had a ton of respect for him and I decided to support that. Just two months later it was announced that she died of cancer. The bishop knew it all along. Can you imagine if I had protested or anything like that how I would have felt denying her calling? I think back on how glad I am now to have supported her in her duties. I gave her a chance to do something in a calling before she passed away. Perhaps a chance she never had before. I also remember that my Bishop supported me in my callings better than anybody else, or any other bishop I have known. I always thought he was unique that way - He always did what he thought was right, regardless of ward politics. I think sometimes we forget our place in the ward, and even deny the bishop his calling. I'm so glad I was careful in my input. Edited April 3, 2012 by Messenger
CV75 Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 CV75,I think you are right. We can say that we forgive someone, and in a small way we have. But sometimes we still harbor ill feelings which can spread to more parts of our lives. What I have found is that when I reach that point, all it takes is a prayer to find a way to forgive someone, and it happens. I'm not sure how that is possible, but it works. Like he said, there is nobody that is immune from it and we all need to work on it. This morning I was thinking of a previous ward I was in years and years ago. The bishop asked someone new in the ward if she could help out. I'm not sure she had a calling but she went right to work closing the overflow off. I thought that was odd. I like a little room in the pew and don't like to be shoulder to shoulder with someone. Plus, I know there were people that smoked or chewed that were trying to be active. For them, it allowed them to attend church, and then leave for their nicotine fit! LOL. I always thought if we didn't have it, they simply wouldn't come to church. Plus, I liked meeting some of the inactive people back there and introducing myself the them. So I brought it up to the bishop, with great care and a lot of respect, I gave my input. He said, "thank you for bringing that up. I know you like to meet with the less active folks. But, I think we are going to give this a try." That's all he said, and I had a ton of respect for him and I decided to support that. Just two months later it was announced that she died of cancer. The bishop knew it all along. Can you imagine if I had protested or anything like that how I would have felt denying her calling? I think back on how glad I am now to have supported her in her duties. I gave her a chance to do something in a calling before she passed away. Perhaps a chance she never had before. I also remember that my Bishop supported me in my callings better than anybody else, or any other bishop I have known. I always thought he was unique that way - He always did what he thought was right, regardless of ward politics. I think sometimes we forget our place in the ward, and even deny the bishop his calling. I'm so glad I was careful in my input.That is a cool example!
Messenger Posted April 4, 2012 Author Posted April 4, 2012 I think Im going to use this talk in my lesson in HP this Sunday. I think there is a lot to be learned, especiall when reaching out to others; how those that are inactive react to us, and how we may react to them.
followerofemmanuel Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I thought President Dieter Uchtdorf's talk was awesome. If there is anything that almost everyone, and nearly every ward needs to work on, its not harboring resentment towards others for what others say or do. It seems to be a vicious cycle and quickly breaks down the loving spirit of what a ward should have."We are not perfect, the people around us are not perfect. People do things that are Annoying, disappoint and anger. In this mortal life it will always be that way, nevertheless we must let go of our grievances"His advice runs deep in every aspect of the ward.1) Who we support in their callings.2) Who we associate with in the ward.3) Who we choose to serve.4) And who we ignore.Perhaps we all have a long way to go.Source talk: http://www.lds.org/g...950013001&cid=4Great challenges for us all. Thanks for sharing the video
Doctor Steuss Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Is there a transcript availble yet, or do I need to wait until I get the Ensign conference dilly?
Libs Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 The essence of President Uchtdorf's talk is being passed around on Facebook and in some of the most unlikely places!I subscribe to a very liberal page called "Hippie Peace Freaks" and the owner of that page had posted THIS, yesterday. I don't know if she really knew where it came from (maybe she did, maybe not), but I was pleased to see it. It made me do kind of a doubletake!
asbestosman Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 Is there a transcript availble yet, or do I need to wait until I get the Ensign conference dilly?Transcript is up.http://www.lds.org/general-conference/2012/04/the-merciful-obtain-mercy?lang=eng
asbestosman Posted April 5, 2012 Posted April 5, 2012 I wish they'd add his next sentence to the caption in the picture, "It’s that simple."
Messenger Posted April 5, 2012 Author Posted April 5, 2012 I wish they'd add his next sentence to the caption in the picture, "It’s that simple."No problem - When I get home I will! LOL - And yes, the graphics have been a big hit on Facebook
zerinus Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 EnjoyLarry PThat was definitely the funniest of them all. You deserve a rep point!
Ariarates Posted April 7, 2012 Posted April 7, 2012 I feel this talk is a bit unbalanced. If I were to give a two-word summary of it, it would be "cheap forgiveness".
Messenger Posted April 7, 2012 Author Posted April 7, 2012 I thought the talk was exactly what we all need right now. Why? Because sometimes we need a little humor, a little pointed candor, from someone who is here to teach us that we are going off of the path. Lets face it, is there any ward or stake that is without someone who does these things? Has there been anybody not ever experienced someone who has done this to them? To the counter: I'm sure there are those, like me, that have had absolutely incredible wards were everyone was loved, felt included, and were accepting of everyone else? Further, I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that for some reason, the wards that are the lower income ones (including branches) seem to be the most loving, and accepting of everyone else. I'm not sure if the two are related or not, just that it seems to exist. With all the scripture, direct revelation, and the largest spiritual event that ever happened in the universe, and happened right here on our planet, the Savior of all mankind who died for us in and created the definition of love, yet we still do not understand. If not now, when? If not us, who? :
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