Jack Posted November 4, 2011 Posted November 4, 2011 Why doesn't the Church let Betty Eadie speak of her experiences at firesides? She is LDS and had an experience that is now a full time money making career. I have not heard any General Authorities saying what happened to her is a lie of is not correct. But again, with work and all I am not paying close attention and could be wrong.Have the leaders spoken about her experiences?
Garden Girl Posted November 5, 2011 Posted November 5, 2011 Why doesn't the Church let Betty Eadie speak of her experiences at firesides? She is LDS and had an experience that is now a full time money making career. I have not heard any General Authorities saying what happened to her is a lie of is not correct. But again, with work and all I am not paying close attention and could be wrong.Have the leaders spoken about her experiences?One problem is that after she wrote her first book, Embraced by the Light, which paralleled gospel principles surprisingly close in certain areas, she began to get off track with a much deeper mystical type of writing, speaking. Mixed with a lot of native American influence (which I think is also her cultural background). GG
Mariner Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Would you share some empirical evidence to back up this assertion.A number of polls and surveys that have looked at the proportion of those in the sciences who believe in a creator God or are religious in that they attend Church regularly, have found that scientists are substantially less religious by these measures than the general population. Those in the hard sciences who excel in their fields are even less likely to believe in God. In fact, among the best of the best in science, the proportion believing in a creator God is exceedingly low. For example, a well known survey of the members of the National Academy of Sciences showed that some 93% were atheist or agnostic. In the Royal Academy of Sciences in the UK, the number of believers is even lower, with only about 3% professing belief in God.These numbers have caused great consternation among creationists, as witnessed by the fact that when one looks for the original data with a key word search on Google, one finds more sites dedicated to Christian apologetics related to these findings than to the findings themselves. Given these data and that the proportion of the US population professing belief in a supreme being is as high as 90% in some surveys, with more than 60% of the US population believing that the OT biblical history of the Earth is basically correct and that there will be a literal second coming, I think that the assumptions in my earlier post are supported by the data.For a look at the increase in non-belief among scientists over time, you might be interested in this Table from a paper in Nature.
Mariner Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Thank you. Not everyone appreciates my strange sense of humor.But I certainly do.Might even borrow this clip for use when this topic comes up in other discussions (with appropriate attribution, of course).
KevinG Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 But I certainly do.Might even borrow this clip for use when this topic comes up in other discussions (with appropriate attribution, of course).Don't credit me. I just borrow funny clips from Youtube. I've created a list several pages long. I can't wait for another word of wisdom discussion - I have a great clip just waiting to be linked.Bwahahahahaha!
alter idem Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 (edited) What are peoples views on the doctrinal aspect of NDE's? Should one accept the common witnesses of these individuals or should we consider them on an individual basis with individuals purposefully misleading or lying about such experiences?In otherwords based on your doctrinal purview; where do you hold NDE's in relation to revealed gospel principles and doctrines?I've heard many people describe their NDE's. I would say that it is wise to consider the truthfulness of each one on a case by case basis. I believe members of the church will look for doctrine in the teachings of the gospel. We can find 'truth' in many other things, outside the church, but I don't constitute all truth in the world as 'doctrine'. Edited November 6, 2011 by alter idem
inquiringmind Posted November 6, 2011 Posted November 6, 2011 Has anyone seen this interview with Dr. Lloyd Ruddy?http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JL1oDuvQR08
DispensatorMysteriorum Posted November 7, 2011 Posted November 7, 2011 inquiringmind,That's a fabulous video. Thanks for sharing!
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted November 9, 2011 Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) What are peoples views on the doctrinal aspect of NDE's? Should one accept the common witnesses of these individuals or should we consider them on an individual basis with individuals purposefully misleading or lying about such experiences?In otherwords based on your doctrinal purview; where do you hold NDE's in relation to revealed gospel principles and doctrines?Not sure what to think, although a friend of mine related her NDE in testimony meeting, not sure if that is proper forum for such things. Edited November 11, 2011 by Bill “Papa” Lee
HeatherAnn Posted November 11, 2011 Posted November 11, 2011 Just wondering... Is it just me or has anyone else had an out-of-mind experience?
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