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I left my scriptures up in Eureka. I have some here but they don't have the index and stuff in it. I'm looking for the verses that say we have victory over death through Christ. I'd appreciate any help you guys and gals can give me. He was not a member of the church and did not have a witness of the Book of Mormon. So the verses will need to be from the Bible.

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There are quite a number of them. An easy way to collect and see which ones you would like to use is to use Chat. Just ask for “scriptures about victory over death through Christ”.  I would post my results, but formatting is weird on my phone. 

Just make sure to doublecheck them as Chat can make stuff up, though in this case there are a number so I don’t know why it would…though I don’t know why it does make things up in the first place.  I assume it happens when there isn’t something that it can recognize as useful, so it makes its own. 
 

If you don’t want to use Chat, goggle will likely do as good of a job.  You can also use LDS online scriptures and just limit it to the New Testament, but their search function hasn’t earned my respect yet (Chat is quite useful as long as you understand its limits…always check its math in recipes, comparisons, and such; for example, I asked it for a capsule version of a saltstick chew I am using with good results but it is way too sweet, like candy and it gave me one that had 4 times as much sodium with the advice to take at least twice as many, which would have given me at least 8 times as much sodium as I need).

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"There is one glory of the sun, and another glory of the moon, and another glory of the stars: for one star differeth from another star in glory. So also is the resurrection of the dead.
It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption:
It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory:
it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power:
It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body.
When this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall be brought to pass the saying that is written, "Death is swallowed up in victory! O death, where is thy sting?! O grave, where is thy victory?!"(1 Corinthians 15:54)

Was he secular?

Sydney Carton’s final words as he sacrifices himself for another. A poignant and beautiful passage about redemption and finding peace in sacrifice. Capturing the idea of passing into a better place, leaving behind a legacy of love and honor.

"I see that child who lay upon her bosom and who bore my name, a man winning his way up in that path of life which once was mine. I see him winning it so well, that my name is made illustrious there by the light of his. . . . It is a far, far better thing that I do, than I have ever done; it is a far, far better rest I go to than I have ever known." (A Tale of Two Cities by Charles D!ckens)

Or maybe

All that is Dad still exists in an immaterial and aethereal form called... "information", we are an aspect of an “existentially unified” cosmos that will persist after our deaths. And his “spirit” or consciousness consists of information, eternal and indestructible. One of the deepest principles of quantum theory is called “unitarity,” which forbids the disappearance of information. This means with enough intelligence and the right technology, it could be retrieved, recreated or resurrected or even maintain its immaterial existence in a computer simulation.

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19 hours ago, rodheadlee said:

I left my scriptures up in Eureka. I have some here but they don't have the index and stuff in it. I'm looking for the verses that say we have victory over death through Christ. I'd appreciate any help you guys and gals can give me. He was not a member of the church and did not have a witness of the Book of Mormon. So the verses will need to be from the Bible.

The relevant New Testament scriptures tend to be "conditional", as far as I can tell, when it comes to the resurrection.  That can be problematic if your father was not a "believer":

"Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live."  John 11:25 (theoretically not of much comfort to family members if your father was not what they would consider to be a "believer".)

Here is one that is not obviously conditional: 

“And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away." Revelation 21:4

For my father's funeral (he was Presbyterian) I went with the 23rd Psalm, recited slowly and deliberately.  Not that it's especially big on deep LDS-compatible doctrine, but it IS rather poetic and longer than a single verse, which gives time for the Spirit to be felt.  So it's sort of like a song where the message is mostly in the melody rather than mostly in the lyrics:

"The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters.

He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me.

Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever."  The 23rd Psalm, King James Version

If the family members are not accustomed to King James language, maybe the English Standard Version:

"The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.

He makes me lie down in green pastures. He leads me beside still waters.

He restores my soul. He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.

Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil, for you are with me; your rod and your staff, they comfort me.

You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies; you anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.

Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever."

May the Lord be with you and with Patti and with all of your family.

 

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Thank you Manol. Dad was a believer. I appreciate the selections you have given us. I like Rev 21:4

 

I like 1st Corinthians 15:55 also. I wish I had my scriptures here. They're down in Mexico on the boat.

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Thanks everyone. I'll hopefully have time tomorrow to get serious about it. I have been in the lower Kingdom shredding paperwork. Then we had another trip to the mortuary and another trip to the bank. The papers shredding is endless though. I know you can collect it all in send it to a service but collecting it the hard part and separating what you need to keep and don't keep.

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I found it easiest and most rewarding to shred as I went, but then it was all dumped at my house, so no big rush to get it done. 

I am still finding documents that got missed or put aside because maybe we might need them from 2014 when Dad passed and then 2020 when Mom did.  It was a mentally exhausting effort, but very satisfying when done (well, almost as there are a few things I am debating on saving for family history).

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 It went really well. A generic Christian minister who happened to be the husband of a friend of the family did the services. He spoke on the three different kingdoms and amazingly it kind of lined up with our religious beliefs. It didn't go as deep as we do but it did line up with what we believe. Anyways thanks for all the your input and prayers.

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