Damien the Leper

Ben Shapiro complains about Bishop Budde's sermon and Dan McClellan responds adequately. https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT2LeFuYv/

It wasn't. You're suggesting running from one burning house to another. I'm not compromising. I'm one who is trying to help put out the fires. That is why I stay. When I accused them of allowing "ugly things" to not be deal breakers it would be wise not to possibly assume that they disagreed with what I said. To be clear, they did not. This is far from the equivalent of accommodating/tolerating systems such as fascism.

I'm confused by the pearl clutching when someone enters the US illegally and yet no one is concerned when the US enters or involves itself illegally with another country.

It wasn't backhanded or oblique. My family knew exactly what I was saying. I'm not going to be backed into a corner to for you to try to find inconstancies in my position. As a citizen of any country, one must pay taxes. This is forced on people. Comparing paying taxes to voting is not the same thing at all. Voting is a choice. Paying taxes is not. I never said you can always separate yourself. I think I can get on board with the bolded. However, choose wisely that which you decide to accommodate/tolerate.

I'm fairly sure I was clear on what I was saying. Which is precisely why I didn't vote at all. I chose not to be complicit in the crimes. You can't always separate the active from the reactive. I saw an uptick in conservative leaning simply over the falsely claimed Haitians eating pets in Ohio. The southern border is a tired issue on which people vote reactively. So, I suppose you're right.

I have many family members who lean conservatively on certain issues but who are by no means, themselves, homophobic, transphobic, racist, misogynistic, xenophobic, sexist, etc. However, I made a point to tell them that while they may not be any of those things they decided that those characteristics are not deal breakers to achieve their desired ends. I stated that because I am not a racist, I will not vote or align in any way with racists. To do so would be carrying water for such groups. We must always be better. And now for a less mature statement but one I stand by... Project 2025 is inherently evil from cover to cover.

Let's not forget equally heretical religious texts such as Atlas Shrugged.

My bad. Thank you for clarifying. I can empathize with your sentiment.

That's only assuming they left faith altogether. Nothing of the sort had been asserted in the telling of the story.

Just...yuck.

My reasons for leaving are my own. I'm a joyful Catholic these days. My history here on the board is chaotic, even for me. I'm tolerated at best. 😘

It reminds me of some silly story told to me when I was in high school about some authority arrogantly assuming and questioning exmo's about what commandment they couldn't live. How very reductive, myopic and, ridiculously ignorant. 🤢🤮

This does not negate your claim for "having a nose" for lie detection. It's good to know your detection was more on point after your initial opinion. Detecting is such hard work.

So long as a divinely unsanctioned campaign of genocide continues (to be clear, this isn't some holy war of righteousness) then the world must unite to condemn a regime that is not acting in any good faith. Perhaps, God willing, another exile is in order due to the unrighteousness of Israel. Furthermore, Jackson County and Jerusalem have no valid connection. Without disrespect, Mormonism is an American religion just as the JW's (no other connection is being claimed by myself). No matter the claims, Mormonism is not, nor will it be, a middle eastern religion. There's no evidence to support that 24 apostles/disciples ever held such a position at the same time. Then there is the chasing of plagiarism with The Restored Branch of Jesus Christ which deals with the ancient people of the British Isles. I've not read their book the Chronicles of the Children of Araneck. But considering their beliefs, I'm guessing they'll have 12 disciples talked about in their book. Now I'm going to take a step back and give Restorationism a little leeway. Perhaps there were more than the OG12. Perhaps there were more than the OG12 and the 12 of the BoM. Finally, I'm not God. I don't know if He has a hand in Restorationism in particular or as a whole. Ugh! Restorationism is so vast and unlimited. It's like Prostestantism but with a more palatable flavor. Thank you for reading my thinking out loud ramble, Damien the Bad Catholic

The implication of hierarchy. There is too much unknown about the LDS pre-existence. Was Jesus the most capable? If not, why was he settled on? I'm, again, just thinking out loud.

The problematic part is determining that only one child is good enough to carry out the sacrifice. That is what I was responding to in @Malc's statement.

That is extremely problematic.

From an LDS perspective, is it possible that the son in premortality bit off more than he can chew? I ask this because of what Jesus said in Gethsemane and his words to God while on the cross. I've never bought the whole God turned away because He couldn't bare to see His child suffer nonsense my uncle tried to pull off. I had never heard a more shallow excuse before or since.

I was going to suggest drive-thru temples but there is too much going on with initiatory and ceremony. Could you imagine the endowment cut down to a 5-minute overview? I've been through the temple many times in the past and just the thought of a drive-thru gives me whiplash and vertigo. Conclusion: Temples! Keep doing your temple-ing. 🤘

I saw a meme a long time ago that went along like this: From this perspective... a lot sounds like bull💩. It is rather odd to be told to be grateful for something you didn't ask for but is decided "best" for you because a god says so. I'm just thinking out loud.

A highly conservative and anti-woke friend of mine once stated that "fact checkers are absurd."

Wasn't Rob Bowman one of them?

Let me check around. I'm sure I have some references that I've hot written down. ETA: Here is a link to a blog post on the subject of Evangelical Calvinism vs Classical Calvinism.

Street corner is accurate.

Remember that modern Calvinists would likely accuse Calvin of not being Calvinist enough. However, Evangelical Calvinism is much more rational.