CV75 Posted October 25, 2019 Posted October 25, 2019 10 hours ago, aussieguy55 said: I don't accept the historicity of the Pentateuch (Finkelstein Dever & Peter Enns). so this just some intellectual fun I have with fundamentalist Christians who attack LGBTT rights and sometimes get caught in a gay bar. Do you accept the whole of Jewish mores carried through to modern times through the centuries--not written, but living history--as a fair basis for religious and spiritual belief and practice, a springboard for some intellectual fun, or both?
aussieguy55 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Posted October 25, 2019 I have been sharing this discussion with Dr Gnuse which he says in an email "What a fun site. I read through it quickly, but I will have to come back to it later. I sure wanted to jump in on the discussion about the flood, since I teach a course on the Bible and Creation and do a history of the Scientific Creationist movement in order to debunk it." I hope he does eventually make an appearance.. Should be interesting.
aussieguy55 Posted October 25, 2019 Author Posted October 25, 2019 I have been busy yesterday turning up at my grandsons daycare center for grandparent day and rather sore sitting on those little chairs so will continue to read the discussion.
aussieguy55 Posted October 30, 2019 Author Posted October 30, 2019 Here is an interesting summary of all sides of the debate on Sodom and yada. https://www.sats.edu.za/userfiles/Rogers, BTh Thesis, 2011 Final.pdf
aussieguy55 Posted October 31, 2019 Author Posted October 31, 2019 I Corinthios 6:9-10 Biblia Sacra Vulgata (VULGATE) 9 An nescitis quia iniqui regnum Dei non possidebunt? Nolite errare: neque fornicarii, neque idolis servientes, neque adulteri,
Damien the Leper Posted November 5, 2019 Posted November 5, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 10:41 AM, InCognitus said: "Paul isn't assuming"? Do you think that Paul would not consider "natural use" to be related to procreation? Not necessarily. Considering the environment he was in on his way back from his mission to the Mediterranean the evidence doesn't suggest so. Paul's lack of knowledge on human physiology would suggest otherwise as well.
aussieguy55 Posted January 20, 2020 Author Posted January 20, 2020 Gnuse comments "What a fun debate. Two observations. You can never convince a true believer, who is a fundamentalist; you can only talk to the people that he or she is trying to convince of his ideas. Note the person who says that Genesis 19 condemns homosexuality appeals to passage that speak of Sodom's great wickedness, so he concludes that this must include sexuality and not just social injustice. But the text just simply does not say that, he wants the text to say that and so he reads it in. To him great wickedness means sexuality, and you will never convince him otherwise. But the text simply does not say what he wants it to say. He has read everything that I had to say and managed to dodge it."
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