mfbukowski Posted May 29, 2018 Posted May 29, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, Calm said: Internal behaviour is still behaviour. Cfr Good luck (Kidding, point is, debatable to infinity. Does that apply to mass murder temptations?) Edited May 29, 2018 by mfbukowski
Calm Posted May 30, 2018 Posted May 30, 2018 3 hours ago, mfbukowski said: Cfr Good luck (Kidding, point is, debatable to infinity. Does that apply to mass murder temptations?) I don't believe internal behaviour is the same thing as external behaviour, just that it is behaviour, which is defined as a response to stimuli imo. Some people limit this to observable actions, I do not. 1
mfbukowski Posted May 31, 2018 Posted May 31, 2018 (edited) On 5/29/2018 at 8:05 PM, Calm said: I don't believe internal behaviour is the same thing as external behaviour, just that it is behaviour, which is defined as a response to stimuli imo. Some people limit this to observable actions, I do not. That would seem to confuse the difference between temptations and acting upon them. If that is the case I deserve Hellfire. I think what you are missing is the exact difference between acting out and not acting out, and the whole meaning of "self-control." So getting hungry on Fast Day means you broken your fast? I disagree. I think it's a distinction without a difference. As I said earlier this could be debated to Infinity. Edited May 31, 2018 by mfbukowski
Calm Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) On 5/31/2018 at 11:23 AM, mfbukowski said: That would seem to confuse the difference between temptations and acting upon them. If that is the case I deserve Hellfire. I think what you are missing is the exact difference between acting out and not acting out, and the whole meaning of "self-control." So getting hungry on Fast Day means you broken your fast? I disagree. I think it's a distinction without a difference. As I said earlier this could be debated to Infinity. Temptations are stimuli; thinking about one's temptations, dwelling upon them, fantasizing is internal behaviour/action imo. If one sits there not eating, but intententionally fantasizes about eating massive amounts of food instead of focusing on developing one's relationship with the Spirit...I think that might count as breaking one's fast. Edited June 2, 2018 by Calm
mfbukowski Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Calm said: imo. We agree, sort of. But we were talking about the initial temptation, not obsession intentionally fed. Anyway this topic is a bottomless pit and I'm done with it thanks bye Edited June 2, 2018 by mfbukowski
Calm Posted June 2, 2018 Posted June 2, 2018 3 minutes ago, mfbukowski said: We disagree Not a problem, we agree on many things.
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