Darren10 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Gray said: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/business/wp/2018/01/23/kimberly-clark-maker-of-kleenex-and-huggies-says-tax-bill-helps-fund-plan-that-includes-more-than-5000-layoffs/?utm_term=.85243501b16b From your link: Quote In the weeks since the GOP tax bill went into effect, numerous U.S. companies promised to pass their savings on to workers through bonuses and salary increases. Say, that supports my sarcastic attack against those who say tax cuts do not help the poor. Quote The company said Tuesday it plans to dismiss between 5,000 and 5,500 people and sell or close about 10 manufacturing facilities in what chief executive Thomas Falk described in a Tuesday call with analysts as “difficult but necessary actions to make the Kimberly-Clark an even stronger company going forward.” Executives declined to say which factories the company would be closing, citing the need to consult with unions, work councils and other stakeholders. They said some of the savings would be used to expand production at other facilities. Chief Financial Officer Maria Henry said the company’s gains from the tax overhaul would help offset the cost of the restructuring plan. The company had an effective tax rate of 28.6 percent in 2017, and the rate would drop to between 23 and 26 percent in 2018 as a result of congressional action, boosting year-over-year earnings growth by 6 percentage points, she told analysts during a conference call to discuss recent financial results. Say it ain’t so. The tax plan will make the company stronger! How bad for the poor. Economics 101 teaches that the economy always adjusts. That means people will always get laid off / loose their jobs. Kleenex was obviously already planning or lay off workers. The tax plan will *help* the company overall though. Here’s what happens when government gets out of a business’ way: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/28/latino-unemployment-rate-is-back-at-historic-low/ https://www.newsmax.com/PatriceLeeOnwuka/african-american-record-employment-tax-cuts-economy/2018/01/09/id/836118/ But, maybe you and the Nehor still want to have republicans punched in their lying faces? Edited January 27, 2018 by Darren10
The Nehor Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Avatar4321 said: The children of Lehi are supposedly to help us build Zion. Understanding those prophecies makes the Churches position very understandable. They are working on reclaiming their birthright.
The Nehor Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 2 hours ago, Darren10 said: I think The Nehor needs a picture of Trump to glue to his punching bag just as much as a cast needs a good scratchboard. Tried. It tears off too quickly. 1
The Nehor Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Darren10 said: Afterall, tax cuts do not follow Jesus' admoninition to give to the poor. https://www.usatoday.com/story/money/2017/12/20/handful-companies-promise-bonuses-pay-raises/971199001/ I love that they are trying to attribute that to the tax cuts and not to the tightening labor market. No wait, love is not the response.....loathe..... I am calling it now. Views on immigration in the party will shift over the next 20 years (if not overtly then tacitly) as the baby boomers exit the labor market and labor becomes scarce. Gen Xers and Millenials who were fiscally responsible and did not have children they could not afford due to a drop in the value of wages will be to blame. Edited January 27, 2018 by The Nehor
Darren10 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 11 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Tried. It tears off too quickly. No wonder you’re not satisfied. 8 minutes ago, The Nehor said: I love that they are trying to attribute that to the tax cuts and not to the tightening labor market. No wait, love is not the response.....loathe..... I am calling it now. Views on immigration in the party will shift over the next 20 years (if not overtly then tacitly) as the baby boomers exit the labor market and labor becomes scarce. Gen Xers and Millenials who were fiscally responsible and did not have children they could not afford due to a drop in the value of wages will be to blame. Conservatives are very supportive of immigration to support the labor market. Always have been.
Danzo Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 29 minutes ago, Darren10 said: No wonder you’re not satisfied. Conservatives are very supportive of immigration to support the labor market. Always have been. Oh, they have always wanted immigration, the cheap labour, as long as they stay in their place. The whole system is designed to let them in and keep them down.
bluebell Posted January 27, 2018 Author Posted January 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Atheist Mormon said: Do those members know all these lands we live on was taken from Native Americans either by exterminating or herding them to reservations? They seem to, but I think that they also know that those Native Americans took the land from other Native Americans, and so on and so forth, for centuries, and that from their perspective there is nothing wrong with taking land through might. (That's not to say that they agree with how the Native Americans were treated while the inevitable was happening, i've never discussed that with any of them. I'm just going off of things i've seen them say online) 1
Darren10 Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 18 minutes ago, Danzo said: Oh, they have always wanted immigration, the cheap labour, as long as they stay in their place. The whole system is designed to let them in and keep them down. From Democrats they are. That party thrives on keeping people down. If the overwhelming majority if DACA recipients did not vote Democrat There's no way on earth the Dems would support it.
Danzo Posted January 27, 2018 Posted January 27, 2018 47 minutes ago, Darren10 said: From Democrats they are. That party thrives on keeping people down. If the overwhelming majority if DACA recipients did not vote Democrat There's no way on earth the Dems would support it. DACA recipients can't vote for any party.
Darren10 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Danzo said: DACA recipients can't vote for any party. Mot yet perhaps but they will vote overwhelmingmy Democrat.
The Nehor Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 2 hours ago, Darren10 said: Conservatives are very supportive of immigration to support the labor market. Always have been. Yes, they say they are. They say they want to expand legal immigration after XXXXX and put in working visas as soon as we XXXXXX etc. Akin to how I say I am going to take up rock climbing.
The Nehor Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 32 minutes ago, Darren10 said: Mot yet perhaps but they will vote overwhelmingmy Democrat. Gee, I wonder why.........maybe because their opponents keep jerking them around and leave them with a horrifically uncertain future. It is a bad dog. When you hit it it bites. 1
Darren10 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Yes, they say they are. They say they want to expand legal immigration after XXXXX and put in working visas as soon as we XXXXXX etc. Akin to how I say I am going to take up rock climbing. 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Gee, I wonder why.........maybe because their opponents keep jerking them around and leave them with a horrifically uncertain future. It is a bad dog. When you hit it it bites. You have a profound way of summarizing fantasy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/26/trump-immigration-proposal-chuck-schumer-371139 Schumer has stood in the way from how DACA should proceed. Not by executive order but by debating it within the legislator. He'd rather shut diwm government and reject s gold plated offering to him than do thongs correctly. DACA can't vote because they are here illegally. Why do you have to bring Fido into this?
Danzo Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 1 hour ago, Darren10 said: Mot yet perhaps but they will vote overwhelmingmy Democrat. You'd be surprised. Many I know are quite conservative. However many of their relatives try to vote for those who promise to do something about the evil treatment they receive under the current law. Americans are going to be judged quite harshly for the current immigration law. It is Evil! I just had a discussion with a couple clients a few days ago. These were dreamers that never chose to come here. US immigration has denied them the possibility of becoming legal for the sole reason that they decided to get married. If they had decided to shack up, the US would have forgiven them. But because they wanted to do the right thing, they cannot be forgiven.
Darren10 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 4 minutes ago, Danzo said: You'd be surprised. Many I know are quite conservative. However many of their relatives try to vote for those who promise to do something about the evil treatment they receive under the current law. Americans are going to be judged quite harshly for the current immigration law. It is Evil! I just had a discussion with a couple clients a few days ago. These were dreamers that never chose to come here. US immigration has denied them the possibility of becoming legal for the sole reason that they decided to get married. If they had decided to shack up, the US would have forgiven them. But because they wanted to do the right thing, they cannot be forgiven. " Americans are going to be judged quite harshly for the current immigration law. It is Evil!" No doubt!
Gray Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 5 hours ago, Darren10 said: From your link: Say, that supports my sarcastic attack against those who say tax cuts do not help the poor. Say it ain’t so. The tax plan will make the company stronger! How bad for the poor. Economics 101 teaches that the economy always adjusts. That means people will always get laid off / loose their jobs. Kleenex was obviously already planning or lay off workers. The tax plan will *help* the company overall though. Here’s what happens when government gets out of a business’ way: http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/09/28/latino-unemployment-rate-is-back-at-historic-low/ https://www.newsmax.com/PatriceLeeOnwuka/african-american-record-employment-tax-cuts-economy/2018/01/09/id/836118/ But, maybe you and the Nehor still want to have republicans punched in their lying faces? Head you win, tails I lose. Convenient logic!
The Nehor Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 3 hours ago, Darren10 said: You have a profound way of summarizing fantasy. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.politico.com/amp/story/2018/01/26/trump-immigration-proposal-chuck-schumer-371139 Schumer has stood in the way from how DACA should proceed. Not by executive order but by debating it within the legislator. He'd rather shut diwm government and reject s gold plated offering to him than do thongs correctly. DACA can't vote because they are here illegally. Why do you have to bring Fido into this? Someone has been doing a little too much Fox News. That stuff is worse than meth. Democrats were refusing to let the government stay open unless DACA was addressed. Finally they reached a deal where DACA was not addressed. So who kept DACA from being addressed?
Darren10 Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 2 minutes ago, The Nehor said: Someone has been doing a little too much Fox News. That stuff is worse than meth. Democrats were refusing to let the government stay open unless DACA was addressed. Finally they reached a deal where DACA was not addressed. So who kept DACA from being addressed? Fantasy. I never watch FOX News. DACA was addressed. They wanted a guarantee that DACA recipients would remain in the States. After they got it Schumer rejected the offer.
The Nehor Posted January 28, 2018 Posted January 28, 2018 41 minutes ago, Darren10 said: Fantasy. I never watch FOX News. DACA was addressed. They wanted a guarantee that DACA recipients would remain in the States. After they got it Schumer rejected the offer. Oh, you mean the more recent situation where they offered DACA in return for shutting down all the legal immigration and following through on Trump's "stop letting them come from the ****hole countries" and get good blond white people from Norway instead. Yeah, that was an unacceptable deal. Good on Schumer for rejecting it.
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