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Posted
9 hours ago, co-eternal said:

Yeah, just saying that Adam is the father of our spirits and the physical father of Christ  raises quite a bit of anger, animosity, contempt, ...

 

I don't think it would take much more.

 

 

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This was recorded on Chat from Mormon dot org 12/21/2017 where the Adam God was mentioned 

Hi Valarie,
Thank you for your interest in chatting with a member of the Church. What would you like to talk about?
Now chatting with: Aja and Giselle
Giselle
9:58 PM
Hello!
Valarie
9:59 PM
Hi
Giselle
9:59 PM
How are you?
Valarie
9:59 PM
I'm very good
Giselle
9:59 PM
That's awesome! How can we help you?
Valarie
9:59 PM
I had a question about the LDS faith
Giselle
9:59 PM
Yeah, what is your question?
Valarie
10:01 PM
I was reading the Book of Abraham, chapter 4 and 5 teaches many gods , I thought Christianity was Monthiestic religion ?
Giselle
10:02 PM
That's great question! Wait a second.
Valarie
10:04 PM
Thank you
Giselle
10:06 PM
Typing...
Aja
10:07 PM
We believe that there is one God, Heavenly Father. We also believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. So Jesus Christ is also referred to as God is some cases.
Valarie
10:08 PM
So why does the Book of Abraham teach many gods ? is it been mistranslated ?
Aja
10:09 PM
No, it is talking about God the Father and Jesus Christ. Are you a member of our church/
Valarie
10:10 PM
I thought God the Father and Jesus were ONE GOD not 2 Alma 11:44
Aja
10:10 PM
We do not believe that they are one being. We believe that they are seperate. What makes you interested in this topic?
Valarie
10:10 PM
Is the BOM mistranslated ?
Aja
10:11 PM
It is not.
Valarie
10:11 PM
Been studing the Triple Combination
Aja
10:12 PM
We believe that they are one in purpose.
Valarie
10:13 PM
Does Alma 11:44 say One in purpose or ONE GOD ?
Valarie
10:14 PM
You must think the BOM has been mistranslated
Aja
10:14 PM
It says that they are each represented. I believe the Book of Mormon to be the most correct book on earth. If you did more studying you would see that what I am saying is correct.
Valarie
10:15 PM
So why does it say ONE GOD in 2 Nephi 31:21, Alma 11:44 an Mormon 7:7 if it isn't mistranslated ?
Valarie
10:16 PM
If you believe The Father and Son are 2 gods /
Valarie
10:17 PM
and hold to the Book of Abraham that teaches 3 gods according to you ?
Aja
10:18 PM
In the creation there was Michael, Jehovah, and Heavenly Father.
Aja

10:18 PM
Do you have a very religious background?
Valarie
10:18 PM
Is Michael Adam ?
Aja
10:18 PM
Yes.
Valarie
10:19 PM
So you believe The Adam God Doctrine ?

Posted
31 minutes ago, Josh Khinder said:

This was recorded on Chat from Mormon dot org 12/21/2017 where the Adam God was mentioned 

Hi Valarie,

This is fascinating considering it happened yesterday.  Valarie a friend of yours doing you a favor?  Or just a puppet to harass the Church and get a conversation you want.
Questionable ethics at best.

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In the creation there was Michael, Jehovah, and Heavenly Father.
Aja

10:18 PM
Do you have a very religious background?
Valarie
10:18 PM
Is Michael Adam ?
Aja
10:18 PM
Yes.
Valarie
10:19 PM
So you believe The Adam God Doctrine ?

Yes, Mormonism teaches the 3 beings involved in the creation were Eloheim, Jehovah, and Michael/Adam.  That is still doctrine of the Church.
If that is considered a godhead then that would make Adam a God like the other two.

Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Josh Khinder said:

This was recorded on Chat from Mormon dot org 12/21/2017 where the Adam God was mentioned 

Hi Valarie,
Thank you for your interest in chatting with a member of the Church. What would you like to talk about?
Now chatting with: Aja and Giselle
Giselle
9:58 PM
Hello!
Valarie
9:59 PM
Hi
Giselle
9:59 PM
How are you?
Valarie
9:59 PM
I'm very good
Giselle
9:59 PM
That's awesome! How can we help you?
Valarie
9:59 PM
I had a question about the LDS faith
Giselle
9:59 PM
Yeah, what is your question?
Valarie
10:01 PM
I was reading the Book of Abraham, chapter 4 and 5 teaches many gods , I thought Christianity was Monthiestic religion ?
Giselle
10:02 PM
That's great question! Wait a second.
Valarie
10:04 PM
Thank you
Giselle
10:06 PM
Typing...
Aja
10:07 PM
We believe that there is one God, Heavenly Father. We also believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God. So Jesus Christ is also referred to as God is some cases.
Valarie
10:08 PM
So why does the Book of Abraham teach many gods ? is it been mistranslated ?
Aja
10:09 PM
No, it is talking about God the Father and Jesus Christ. Are you a member of our church/
Valarie
10:10 PM
I thought God the Father and Jesus were ONE GOD not 2 Alma 11:44
Aja
10:10 PM
We do not believe that they are one being. We believe that they are seperate. What makes you interested in this topic?
Valarie
10:10 PM
Is the BOM mistranslated ?
Aja
10:11 PM
It is not.
Valarie
10:11 PM
Been studing the Triple Combination
Aja
10:12 PM
We believe that they are one in purpose.
Valarie
10:13 PM
Does Alma 11:44 say One in purpose or ONE GOD ?
Valarie
10:14 PM
You must think the BOM has been mistranslated
Aja
10:14 PM
It says that they are each represented. I believe the Book of Mormon to be the most correct book on earth. If you did more studying you would see that what I am saying is correct.
Valarie
10:15 PM
So why does it say ONE GOD in 2 Nephi 31:21, Alma 11:44 an Mormon 7:7 if it isn't mistranslated ?
Valarie
10:16 PM
If you believe The Father and Son are 2 gods /
Valarie
10:17 PM
and hold to the Book of Abraham that teaches 3 gods according to you ?
Aja
10:18 PM
In the creation there was Michael, Jehovah, and Heavenly Father.
Aja

10:18 PM
Do you have a very religious background?
Valarie
10:18 PM
Is Michael Adam ?
Aja
10:18 PM
Yes.
Valarie
10:19 PM
So you believe The Adam God Doctrine ?

I don't believe Mormons generally agree on or accept this speculation. You may find opinions out there about many things.  That doesn't mean it is generally accepted as doctrine, or has anything to do with our salvation.  

I like what the Savior said in Mark 9:38-41

"38 ¶ And John answered him, saying, Master, we saw one casting out devils in thy name, and he followeth not us: and we forbad him, because he followeth not us.
            39 But Jesus said, Forbid him not: for there is no man which shall do a miracle in my name, that can lightly speak evil of me.
            40 For he that is not against us is on our part."

That thought gives us a lot of latitude when discussing controversial issues with other Christians, without attributing bad motives to them.

Edited by Meerkat
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