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The Question that always plagued me; Is God a gracious loser?


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Posted
22 hours ago, Atheist Mormon said:

Just because you say they are natural it don't make it so; what is natural about waling on the water? Have you seen anybody doing that lately? If you are going that far you should believe Uri Geller, who claimed of bending spoons, who BTW was exposed by our (one & only skeptic) James Randi, who is also an atheist.

You cannot equate those charlatanism with solid state electronics or led screens....

You miss the point once more, Atheist.  Of course you are correct to say that just because I (or anyone else) makes an assertion doesn't make it so.  Not sure whether you are denying that Mormon theology asserts the primacy of natural law, or whether you are simply claiming that the laws of physics prevent someone from walking on water.

Moreover, you bring up the red herring of Uri Geller after I had already made it clear that we are definitely not discussing Las Vegas magic tricks.  That is an unfortunate distraction by you from the true issue:  Do the laws of physics (or science and engineering generally) prevent us from doing certain things which are regarded as "miraculous"?  There are indeed practical problems to be overcome via technology, but it is not a "magic trick" to use a solid state device with LED screen to transmit information -- which no one today would see as at all odd or "miraculous."  I have no problem at all with a god who has mastered the secrets of the physical universe -- of which he is a part -- although normative Judeo-Christian-Muslim theology rejects that as heresy.  You really need to think hard about your deep misunderstanding here.  It colors all the rest of your thinking.

Posted
1 hour ago, JAHS said:

Huh?  I guess so if you don't like having more children.

Huh? In case you missed; Jobs Wife & grown up children got eliminated by Satan, is a new set of wife & kids acceptable outcome to you?

Posted
13 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said:

Huh? In case you missed; Jobs Wife & grown up children got eliminated by Satan, is a new set of wife & kids acceptable outcome to you?

Eternal perspective. The point is that those kids that were eliminated still belong to him and he will have them in the next life in addition to the new ones he now has. The material things that he lost he won't have.

Posted
2 hours ago, JAHS said:

Eternal perspective. The point is that those kids that were eliminated still belong to him and he will have them in the next life in addition to the new ones he now has. The material things that he lost he won't have.

Another words, they will form a Grand Family.....doesn't sound bad after all.

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