Re: Do Prophets or Apostles lie?

[Atheist Mormon]

If you think they do how do you accept this?  I know I lie several times a day, the most common example is I tell my girls at the office I'm not there or I'd be mad mad at my wife I'd tell her "No it wasn't your fault"....Sometimes it's even more serious nature.....Do you think this is immoral? Unethical?

 

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said:

If you think they do how do you accept this?  I know I lie several times a day, the most common example is I tell my girls at the office I'm not there or I'd be mad mad at my wife I'd tell her "No it wasn't your fault"....Sometimes it's even more serious nature.....Do you think this is immoral? Unethical?

 

All men are flawed, most certainly as young men. My guess is due to their calling, they make every attempt to never lie about what matters. However, it is the nature of men to fudge when asked if they feel alright...it's a "man thing". 

 

[thesometimesaint]

28 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said:

If you think they do how do you accept this?  I know I lie several times a day, the most common example is I tell my girls at the office I'm not there or I'd be mad mad at my wife I'd tell her "No it wasn't your fault"....Sometimes it's even more serious nature.....Do you think this is immoral? Unethical?

If your wife asks you if her dress makes her look fat. I suggest changing the subject. Technically a lie by omission.

[Sleeper Cell]

56 minutes ago, Atheist Mormon said:

 

If you think they do how do you accept this?  I know I lie several times a day, the most common example is I tell my girls at the office I'm not there or I'd be mad mad at my wife I'd tell her "No it wasn't your fault"....Sometimes it's even more serious nature.....Do you think this is immoral? Unethical?

 

Yeah.  I abandoned Christianity after I found out that the apostle Peter lied three times in one night about a critical matter with potentially far reaching implications.

Then I read some stuff about repentance and forgiveness.  And something or another about a mote. 

[Duncan]

I am not around them enough to know. I only really hear them twice a year

[Rivers]

The church has long history of lying for the Lord; beginning with Joseph Smith's polygamy denials.  You can go back even further to Abraham who lied about his wife when he was in Egypt.  But if Nephi can be justified in killing Laban for a righteous purpose, I suppose there are times when lying is justified.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Rivers

[Calm]

46 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

If your wife asks you if her dress makes her look fat. I suggest changing the subject. Technically a lie by omission.

I suspect most women would prefer you actually tell the the truth because if they are asking they don't want to look that way and if they do, you are doing them no favors by lying to them.  And if it doesn't make them look fat, then relieve their concerns.  I would be insulted that my husband was treating me like a child if he lied to my about that.

Edited September 25, 2016 by Calm

[thesometimesaint]

4 minutes ago, Rivers said:

The church has long history of lying for the Lord; beginning with Joseph Smith's polygamy denials.  You can go back even further to Abraham who lied about his wife when he was in Egypt.  But if Nephi can be justified in killing Laban for a righteous purpose, I suppose there are times when lying is justified.

Mark Twain on Mormon Women - 1861

"I am not given to exaggeration, and when I say a thing I mean it." Page 85

Roughing It – Chapter 14, pages 97-98

Our stay in Salt Lake City amounted to only two days, and therefore we had no time to make the customary inquisition into the workings of polygamy and get up the usual statistics and deductions preparatory to calling the attention of the nation at large once more to the matter. 

I had the will to do it.  With the gushing self-sufficiency of youth I was feverish to plunge in headlong and achieve a great reform here—until I saw the Mormon women.  Then I was touched.  My heart was wiser than my head.  It warmed toward these poor, ungainly and pathetically "homely" creatures, and as I turned to hide the generous moisture in my eyes, I said, "No--the man that marries one of them has done an act of Christian charity which entitles him to the kindly applause of mankind, not their harsh censure--and the man that marries sixty of them has done a deed of open-handed generosity so sublime that the nations should stand uncovered in his presence and worship in silence."