Girls raised in the Church

[bcuzbcuz]

7 hours ago, Bobbieaware said:

I'm a proponent of giving more or less equal time to both approaches. If pressed, I would say I come down 51% on the side of the broken egg approach and 49% on the forgiveness approach. If we really care about our young people, there must be some wise, effective and no-nonsense way to teach them it's much better to not sin in the first place. Remember, a young woman who loses her virginity before marriage will remain a woman who has lost her virginity before marriage, even if she has gone through the repentance process and has been forgiven. And that same young women will not be able to tell her chaste husband she is a virgin, even if she has been forgive, Do you not agree that a wise way should be found to teach our youth that it's better (and let's make no mistake about it, it is better) to not sin in the first place? And also remember the Book of Mormon condemns the attitude that says don't make too big a deal about sin because you can always be forgiven. Therefore, my vote is for equal time.

"And that same young women (sic) will not be able to tell her chaste husband she is a virgin."

So what? Is he the one doing the asking, then shame on him. Are you a person of the opinion that a husband should be his wife´s confessor?

And if the woman (or the man) is not able to identify themselves as "virgin" what difference does that make? If a woman (or man) were to confess a loss of virgintiy prior to marriage, but first, only after have entered into marriage, can a husband (or wife) demand an anulment of the ceremony. Is there a money back guarantee? 

If a person has not lived a chaste life, but marries someone who has been chaste, just exactly what can the chaste person do about it? And does it matter? If the person who has not lived a chaste life is not bringing any STD into the marriage, and isn´t already a parent from a previous pregnancy (sorry, I can´t think of other negatives, but bring them up if any of the readers of this can imagine others) Just what are the negatives that the non-chaste person brings into the relationship?

Does anyone, prior to marriage, have the right to question the morality of the person they are dating?, engaged to? Intending to marry? Thinking of getting serious with? Trying to choose among a field of potential candidates?.......

Does a person who questions the virginity of a potential mate have any right to ask for proof? Or to conduct tests? Spy on? Investigate character? Ask for references? Talk to previous/current Bishops of the intended? 

[Calm]

On September 12, 2016 at 6:49 AM, Calm said:

"If pressed, I would say I come down 51% on the side of the broken egg approach"....

And do you end up with a crushed shell or a new egg in your approach?

Bobbieaware has visited the board a few times sinceI posted this and I believe others have asked her some questions based on her last few posts, popping this up in case she has forgotten.

[bsjkki]

I really do like my Bishop.  He realized his egg analogy was not the best and readdressed the issue using the 'white as snow' doctrine.