The temple curse 2

[Foreigner]

First, I should explain why the same topic once more. Simply, because after the forum change I have lost the reply/quote option. So I cannot post even in my own topic (except Social Hall). I have asked about this twice with no answer. Are any admins or mods here? I have been with this forum for several years (mostly in passive way) and still not understand the way it operates.

I do not complain. That all works for me. For example, after the change I was prepared to reply in some difficult topic, yet it has been already not possible. Having more time for reflection I have got clear inspiration to change mind and not to post.

Then I have noticed a new possibility opened for me after the forum change, that is opening new topic. And there was a difficult topic I have considered for years. It may look rather controversial, yet my inspiration was to go on.

 So instead of posts I have to open topics, yet not many are needed, three are sufficient, including two introductory and the final one.

Now I would like to describe a specific example of "temple curse".

This happened about 1950 year near the Salt Lake Temple. This is a second hand report. A Pentecostal pastor travelled by Utah with family and decided to visit the Temple. When visiting, a temple guide was teaching about history and mentioned the name of Moroni.  At this very moment the 15-years old pastor's son was struck down to ground with no visible reason. The guide advised them to be patient because something like this happens sometimes and the boy should stand up after minute. The pastor (this is his relation) was not so patient and decided to "cast away evil spirits" himself. He tried three times and finally succeeded, according to his opinion. His conclusion was obviously, that there exist special areas under dominion of evil spirits, which should be definitely avoided...

I could agree with this pastor in many aspects of his service but this one. Well, I am the temple recommend holder. After reading such story, a question was for me: What was the reason behind? And a thought, that the temple can react like a living creature. After reflection I have got quite clear picture. This is my rendering of the situation. The temple has human guards, actually modern, cultural Americans. But it has also spiritual guards, who have different attitude, insight, goals and methods. The pastor could interpret them as evil, while they could be just angry at him (In my native language this could be described in pretty funny fashion when the same word can be used). The pastor had surely negative attitude to the temple and prepared his son accordingly. I can imagine how scoffing and disregarding this boy was. I can easily imagine many spirits (angels), including Moroni himself, eagerly pleading: how long all these hordes of scoffers can come and insult the temple? I can imagine that they are granted sometimes to act.

I have never visited Salt Lake. My place is at the opposite side of the earth. If anyone knows something similar, please share with us and comment.

I am grateful for those who shared their valuable impressions about the temple. Yet I would like to mention the dark side and negative experiences now. Notice please, that even scriptures focus on these hard experiences, because we gain knowledge this way.

(I am writing in a foreign language for me. Its use is surely not the best. If someone has any doubts or advice, please, be so kind to PM me.)

[Avatar4321]

forgive me for being skeptical of a second hand account.

maybe you should just worry about doing what's right. Then there is no need to worry about curses.

[JAHS]

There is no "temple curse", only temple blessings. Those who come near or into the temple are only spiritually uplifted; never struck down.

[Avatar4321]

let me add that a second hand account from someone with no name and a profession that provides motivation to have us appear in the worst light possible is even more of a reason for skepticism.

[boblloyd91]

I have never heard of anyone going unconscious at the name of Moroni. I know that I read a book by Chad Hawkins about temples and it talked about a woman he interviewed named Dorothy Decapot Shaw. Apparently she was in a new town and was praying to know which church she should go to, when she had a dream that involved what she later found out was the Salt Lake temple. 

 

In in regards to the story of the Pentecostal pastor, it sounds like something Ed Decker would say. I could think of a few secondhand stories I've heard on my mission involving Pentecostals, but I won't because I can't verify their truth.