MiserereNobis Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Do you have any examples of living prophets conflicting with dead prophets? The teachings of Brigham Young on Adam-God and the reasons for the priesthood ban as compared to the teachings today.
JLHPROF Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Are we limited to LDS prophets? Depends if you want any authority from God behind the prophecies.
JLHPROF Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Do you have any examples of living prophets conflicting with dead prophets? More than you could begin to imagine.Now I could name them but I guarantee the general responses would be: 1. The later prophet received further light on the subject (whether any revelation is recorded or not).or2. The original prophet was only giving opinion and was probably mistaken. These two responses have made any conflict between prophets to be basically ignored by the membership at large. 1
Tsuzuki Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Depends if you want any authority from God behind the prophecies.Did Moses have authority from God?
JLHPROF Posted November 17, 2015 Posted November 17, 2015 Did Moses have authority from God? Yes - which is why he is part of the accepted prophets list in Mormonism. Not every prophetic claim falls into that category.
Monster Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) You lost me when you said "I Know". No one can know things of a metaphysical nature. You can hope or even believe, but you can not know. To say I know indicates you can prove it. Can you with anything other than anecdotal evidence? Edited November 18, 2015 by Monster
mfbukowski Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Fergetaboutit Edited November 18, 2015 by mfbukowski
mfbukowski Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) By the way, do you "know" you love your wife? Do you "know" you have phantom pain in your amputated leg? Do you know murder is wrong? Do you know the church is wrong? Take your pick!! Prove that snow is "white"http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/truth-deflationary/ Edited November 18, 2015 by mfbukowski
mfbukowski Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Forget it. I won't get into it with you. I am done wasting time. Please resume your discussion
MiserereNobis Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Forget it. I won't get into it with you. I am done wasting time. Please resume your discussion Oh, c'mon Mark, I "know" you always want to get into it when it comes to epistemology (and metaphysics, too!) 2
mfbukowski Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 Oh, c'mon Mark, I "know" you always want to get into it when it comes to epistemology (and metaphysics, too!)Prove it! 1
MiserereNobis Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) 25,035 posts? Can you prove that the number 25,035 that you perceive in your mind in any way corresponds to the TRVTH that Mark has actually made 25,035 posts? I, for one, know that out there in form-heaven there is an essential and perfect abstract idea of Mark that includes 25,035 posts (illuminated of course by the form of the Good), and from this idea Mark and his number of posts has descended. But then again, I'm a pagan Greek-Platonic-Christian, so I've got it easy Edited November 18, 2015 by MiserereNobis 2
mfbukowski Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 (edited) Can you prove that the number 25,035 that you perceive in your mind in any way corresponds to the TRVTH that Mark has actually made 25,035 posts? I, for one, know that out there in form-heaven there is an essential and perfect abstract idea of Mark that includes 25,035 posts (illuminated of course by the form of the Good), and from this idea Mark and his number of posts has descended. But then again, I'm a pagan Greek-Platonic-Christian, so I've got it easy See dude? You can't even get away from the correspondence theory when you try! Numbers are symptoms of sequential thinking because we are bound by perceptions of time and space when what is important is the wisdom of the content, which puts me in trouble both ways. Some of us are just tired, manifesting the Form of Tiredness and then some of us are Re-Tired meaning we have already surpassed and Overcome tiredness the first time and now are on to a new dimension of Tiredness only known to those who have been there- the direct experience of being Re-Tired is beyond the comprension of those only Tired. But I posess a Dual Nature because I am a manifestation not only of Tiredness and Re-Tiredness because i also manifest myself as Semi- Re- Tired. That clearly makes me three persons with one substance and also two natures, thereby allowing me to Transcend time and space and therefore numbers of posts. All those posts are actually One in Wisdom and Power, so I really only have ONE post in the Platonic Universe. So There! Edited November 18, 2015 by mfbukowski 2
MiserereNobis Posted November 18, 2015 Posted November 18, 2015 See dude? You can't even get away from the correspondence theory when you try! Numbers are symptoms of sequential thinking because we are bound by perceptions of time and space when what is important is the wisdom of the content, which puts me in trouble both ways. Some of us are just tired, manifesting the Form of Tiredness and then some of us are Re-Tired meaning we have already surpassed and Overcome tiredness the first time and now are on to a new dimension of Tiredness only known to those who have been there- the direct experience of being Re-Tired is beyond the comprension of those only Tired. But I posess a Dual Nature because I am a manifestation not only of Tiredness and Re-Tiredness because i also manifest myself as Semi- Re- Tired. That clearly makes me three persons with one substance and also two natures, thereby allowing me to Transcend time and space and therefore numbers of posts. All those posts are actually One in Wisdom and Power, so I really only have ONE post in the Platonic Universe. So There! Awesome! I had some great giggles
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