Calm Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 Perhaps some do that, but I find it hard to equate a covering for the head of a dead man with something used to wipe dirty fingers at a table. I would like to see some evidence that a part of burial outfit is considered identical to a table linen...and if it isn't, there seems little reason to believe someone at the gravesite would think it had that symbology.
Calm Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 (edited) http://www.gotquestions.org/folded-napkin.html"The other key word is folded. Was the burial cloth or napkin left folded in the tomb? Two of the translations use the word folded (NIV, NKJV). Others translate the word as “rolled up” (NASB, ASV, RSV) or “wrapped together” (KJV). The Greek word is entulisso, which is from words that may mean “to twist” or “to entwine.” The bottom line is that there is no agreement that it was a table napkin and no agreement that it was neatly folded in any meaningful way. The primary meaning of John 20:7 is that the cloth, which was placed over Jesus’ head or face at burial, was separate from the rest of His grave clothes. The significance of that, if there is any, is unknown.It has been rumored that folding the napkin at the table is a Jewish custom that means the person folding the napkin intends to return. Numerous Bible study sources have been checked, but there is nothing about this alleged Jewish custom of the folded napkins. The only references to this story seem to be from internet postings and emails that appear to have originated in 2007.Many Bible commentators and authors have used this creative illustration to make specific application to the resurrection and return of Jesus Christ. The truth is that table napkins, such as we use today, were not used in Jesus’ day. Jews would do an after-meal hand washing as part of the eating ritual. Washing of the hands before a meal was mandatory according to rabbinic injunction, but after washing their hands, did people dry them with a cloth? Apparently, there is no early rabbinic source that discusses how the hands were dried after washing them. The folding of the napkin as a sign that a dinner guest was finished may be good European custom, but it appears this custom was unknown in the land of Israel in the time of Jesus." Edited August 2, 2015 by calmoriah
janderich Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 The narrative indicates that Mary when she saw the stone rolled away ran to the disciples and told them that the body had been taken from the tomb. Peter and John thinking the body was stolen run to the sepulcure. John reaches it first but does not go in. He sees the linen clothes but comes to no definite conclusion. However, Peter enters the tomb and more closely examines the clothes. Peter not only sees the linen clothes but the "napkin" that was about his head not lying with the body wrappings. Then John enters and sees the same. Because of this evidence they believe that Jesus has risen from the dead and his body not been stolen. Why then is the head wrapping important in order to recognize that he was resurrected and not just stolen? Well some commentators believe, and it seems plausible to me, that the clothes and wrappings were found in the same position as if they had not been disturbed at all. In other words, the head wrapping was still folded as it would have been around the head and positioned just as it would be above the body wrappings. This folding and positioning implied that Christ had slipped out of the covering without disturbing them in the least. No purely mortal being could do such a thing. This evidence corroborated what they had heard earlier from Jesus lips. For instance when they came down from the Mount of Transfiguration and we are told, "he [Jesus] charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen till the Son of man were risen from the dead. And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean" (Mark 9:9-10). And so Jesus previous statements, combined with this new evidence causes John to believe he has risen from the dead. 2
Tacenda Posted August 2, 2015 Posted August 2, 2015 In Primary today, they discussed the Jesus raising Lazarus from the dead story, when we read the following scripture it made me think of this thread! John 11:44 "And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with graveclothes: and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose him, and let him go."
Stone holm Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 Maybe He knew Mary, who some Mormons believe to have been His wife, would be the first one ther and didn't He didn't want to be scolded for not folding His clothes.
Guest Posted August 3, 2015 Posted August 3, 2015 7 And the napkin, that was about his head, not lying with the linen clothes, but wrapped together in a place by itself. Do we know why this particular point is important? Why is this pointed out? This question was asked by a member of our Sunday School class and no one had an answer. The questioner also mentioned that this is often pointed out in talks by GA (not sure if his claim is true).The Napkin is the only thing not a part of the robs of the Holy Priesthood among other things required then and now as a part of the burial rite. The Napkik served a different role...not part of the burial rite package. Gould be about that?
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