intra Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 A better translation would be that there is no other kind of being that is God than the kind of being he isif you think the translation is wrong, can you please show me what is the error in the translation? 859 [e] ’at-tāh אַתָּה֙ to you 7200 [e] hā-rə-’ê-ṯā הָרְאֵ֣תָ it was shown 3045 [e] lā-ḏa-‘aṯ, לָדַ֔עַת that you might know3588 [e] kî כִּ֥י that 3068 [e] Yah-weh יְהוָ֖ה the LORD 1931 [e] hū ה֣וּא he 430 [e] hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm; הָאֱלֹהִ֑ים [is] God369 [e] ’ên אֵ֥ין none 5750 [e] ‘ō-wḏ ע֖וֹד [there is] else905 [e] mil-ḇad-dōw. מִלְבַדּֽוֹ׃ beside it seems to say quite clearly that YHWH is Elohim and no one else is. maybe you should write your own scriptures and replace the Bible with them? i have heard that some men do that.
Ahab Posted January 13, 2015 Posted January 13, 2015 if you think the translation is wrong, can you please show me what is the error in the translation? 859 [e] ’at-tāh אַתָּה֙ to you 7200 [e] hā-rə-’ê-ṯā הָרְאֵ֣תָ it was shown 3045 [e] lā-ḏa-‘aṯ, לָדַ֔עַת that you might know3588 [e] kî כִּ֥י that 3068 [e] Yah-weh יְהוָ֖ה the LORD 1931 [e] hū ה֣וּא he 430 [e] hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm; הָאֱלֹהִ֑ים [is] God369 [e] ’ên אֵ֥ין none 5750 [e] ‘ō-wḏ ע֖וֹד [there is] else905 [e] mil-ḇad-dōw. מִלְבַדּֽוֹ׃ beside it seems to say quite clearly that YHWH is Elohim and no one else is. maybe you should write your own scriptures and replace the Bible with them? i have heard that some men do that.The translation is right but your interpretation of the translation is wrong. You don't understand the translation correctly.I already told you there is only one kind of being in all of existence that is God. Only one kind of being that is more supreme than all other kinds of being. That is the kind of being that I and many others refer to as God. The supreme kind of being. There is more than one person who is that kind of being, however. One God, but more than one person who is God. We and others sonetimes say Gods or gods because it is quicker than writing "persons who are God, just as it is quicker to write humans instead of people who are human. Not that I expect you to believe any of this, but on the day of your judgement before God you will remember and admit that someone took the time to explain it to you.I'm done with you now. Live as you will.
intra Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 (edited) you have opinions, and you have human teachings, and you speak from them, but i am speaking from what the scripture says. you have not in a single reply justified anything from the Bible, and in every reply i have justified what i say from these scriptures. all i want for you to understand is that the theology of the LDS is not the theology of the Bible. when you say the Bible teaches plurality of gods, you lie. it's not your fault that you've been taught lies, but i hope the Lord will open your eyes to look for yourself and see. The translation is right but your interpretation of the translation is wrong. You don't understand the translation correctly. you are admitting you were wrong to say this scripture is not translated correctly. good! I already told you there is only one kind of being in all of existence that is God. Only one kind of being that is more supreme than all other kinds of being. keeping in mind that it doesn't matter what you tell me, or what i tell you, or what anyone says, but what God says, and that you agree that the Bible is God's word. "elohim" means 'god' in exactly the sense you are trying to communicate.the verse we are looking at together says "YHWH is Elohim and none else are, beside Him." you agree that this is the correct translation. i invite you to have a look at the Hebrew for all the other scripture i've given you in this thread, and see for yourself that the Bible says YHWH is elohim, and there is no other elohim. you are free to follow after whatever teachers you find for yourself that "tickle your ears" and i won't dispute with you whether or not certain men came thousands of years after Christ, and taught polytheism and an humanistic godhood of all mankind. but the Bible does not teach this. see for yourself. don't believe men. look at the scripture and see what the Bible says. Edited January 14, 2015 by intra
The Nehor Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 if you think the translation is wrong, can you please show me what is the error in the translation? 859 [e] ’at-tāh אַתָּה֙ to you 7200 [e] hā-rə-’ê-ṯā הָרְאֵ֣תָ it was shown 3045 [e] lā-ḏa-‘aṯ, לָדַ֔עַת that you might know3588 [e] kî כִּ֥י that 3068 [e] Yah-weh יְהוָ֖ה the LORD 1931 [e] hū ה֣וּא he 430 [e] hā-’ĕ-lō-hîm; הָאֱלֹהִ֑ים [is] God369 [e] ’ên אֵ֥ין none 5750 [e] ‘ō-wḏ ע֖וֹד [there is] else905 [e] mil-ḇad-dōw. מִלְבַדּֽוֹ׃ beside it seems to say quite clearly that YHWH is Elohim and no one else is. maybe you should write your own scriptures and replace the Bible with them? i have heard that some men do that. So elohim is plural and YHWH is the only one? Someone should tell the rest of the biblical writers that. The Moabite god Chemosh is also referred to as elohim, the gods of Egypt are also, so is the dead spirit Saul had conjured by the witch at Endor (presumably with Ewoks looking on), it is applied to demons and to angels, all in the Bible. Uh-oh.......we just found a contradiction in the Bible. YHWH claims he is the only elohim but the Old Testament is full of them......... And they found another one....... http://www.theonion.com/articles/slight-inconsistency-found-in-bible,4194/ Looks like we better pack in Christianity and Judaism. Or can you explain how God made these shocking errors?
Ahab Posted January 14, 2015 Posted January 14, 2015 So elohim is plural and YHWH is the only one? Someone should tell the rest of the biblical writers that. The Moabite god Chemosh is also referred to as elohim, the gods of Egypt are also, so is the dead spirit Saul had conjured by the witch at Endor (presumably with Ewoks looking on), it is applied to demons and to angels, all in the Bible.Uh-oh.......we just found a contradiction in the Bible. YHWH claims he is the only elohim but the Old Testament is full of them.........And they found another one....... http://www.theonion.com/articles/slight-inconsistency-found-in-bible,4194/Looks like we better pack in Christianity and Judaism. Or can you explain how God made these shocking errors?In a sense there is only one God and that God is elohim, plural. Plural in persons, but not plural in the the sense that there is more than one kind of being that is God, in reality. False gods don't count, because they're really not gods, or Gods.People who don't understand that there is more than one person who is God just don't understand what it means to say God is elohim.
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