WysteriaBlue Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 Just thought some might be interested in this article on the massive incorrect press coverage of Pope Francis' views on evolution... http://time.com/3545844/pope-francis-evolution-creationism/?xid=newsletter-brief As 2013 Time Magazine Person of the Year....he is trying to implement some positive changes including transparent church accounting and less pomp and ceremony...while sticking to the church's stance on the definition of marriage etc. worth reading if you missed it... http://poy.time.com/2013/12/11/pope-francis-the-choice/ Just information....wb
Boanerges Posted October 30, 2014 Posted October 30, 2014 I don't disagree that the media has a love affair with the pope, and they get plenty wrong. But they didn't get this totally wrong. He did affirm that evolution is not inconsistent with Catholic doctrine.
VideoGameJunkie Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 (edited) Pope Francis just said something that's making news and makes me very happy. He comforted a young child whose dog had just died and he said all of God's creatures can gain entrance to paradise. All I've ever wanted is to hear from a General Authority or a prophet that I'll be with my 3 cats in heaven. I give Pope Francis credit for saying what he said about animals in heaven. As you can see, I'm on Limited profile and can't make threads so I had to bump a thread to say my piece. Edited December 13, 2014 by VideoGameJunkie
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Just thought some might be interested in this article on the massive incorrect press coverage of Pope Francis' views on evolution... Tackling the problem of climate change is a serious ethical and moral responsibility, Pope Francis has told negotiators from around the world meeting for a climate summit in Lima, Peru.http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/12/12/time-is-running-out-to-fight-climate-change-pope-tells-summit/
Kenngo1969 Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Tackling the problem of climate change is a serious ethical and moral responsibility, Pope Francis has told negotiators from around the world meeting for a climate summit in Lima, Peru.http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/12/12/time-is-running-out-to-fight-climate-change-pope-tells-summit/That may be so, but unless and until he can get China and India on board (a hard row to hoe, indeed), unfortunately, he's not likely to make much of a dent in the problem. 1
thesometimesaint Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 That may be so, but unless and until he can get China and India on board (a hard row to hoe, indeed), unfortunately, he's not likely to make much of a dent in the problem. The Pope didn't do it President Obama did get China on board.
ERayR Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 The Pope didn't do it President Obama did get China on board. Yep he got an agreement from China that the US would cut our emissions but China would do nothing. Every time a US negotiator announces a deal the give away the farm. 1
thesometimesaint Posted December 13, 2014 Posted December 13, 2014 Yep he got an agreement from China that the US would cut our emissions but China would do nothing. Every time a US negotiator announces a deal the give away the farm. Incorrect.
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Tackling the problem of climate change is a serious ethical and moral responsibility, Pope Francis has told negotiators from around the world meeting for a climate summit in Lima, Peru.http://www.catholicherald.co.uk/news/2014/12/12/time-is-running-out-to-fight-climate-change-pope-tells-summit/ other religious leaders too
Stone holm Posted December 14, 2014 Posted December 14, 2014 Pope Francis has been a major inspiration to a large group of non Catholics. He is the one religious leader to be able on an international pulpit to capture media attention in a manner which may actually rekindle interest in religion by those currently bein repulsed by it. The world has needed a religious leader who could rekindle the average person's interest in religion without also inspiring hate or violence, now it has one.
emarkp Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 other religious leaders tooWhy would they want to leave their religion to join a different one, that worships a different god? 1
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 17, 2014 Posted December 17, 2014 Why would they want to leave their religion to join a different one, that worships a different god? Fundamentalists always say that science is a religion.
emarkp Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Fundamentalists always say that science is a religion.*Shrug* I certainly didn't say that. I spent 10 years of my life simulating x-ray interaction with human tissue for cancer treatment. Parallel computation of models with scientific validation. That certainly isn't a religion.
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 *Shrug* I certainly didn't say that. I spent 10 years of my life simulating x-ray interaction with human tissue for cancer treatment. Parallel computation of models with scientific validation. That certainly isn't a religion. Good, but you did not do any scientific research on the climate. There are many medical researchers that believe the universe is 6,000 years old, they say that the old Universe theory is a religion.
emarkp Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Good, but you did not do any scientific research on the climate. There are many medical researchers that believe the universe is 6,000 years old, they say that the old Universe theory is a religion.My minor was in physics. The physics of radiation is pretty clear cut, and indicate a very old earth. That's how evidence works (including the overwhelming evidence for evolution). It's a shame that evidence is ignored in the climate arena. Another 20 years or so should fix that. Except for those who have erected a false god.
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) My minor was in physics. So? I also took physics courses at the University, that is nowhere near a real scientific research on the climate. The physics of radiation is pretty clear cut, and indicate a very old earth. That's how evidence works But many people refuse to see the evidence, there are some geologists and physicists that believe the Earth is 6,000 years old. It's a shame that evidence is ignored in the climate arena. LOL Young Earth creationists say exactly the same thing. What do both of you have in common? Both reject the peer-reviewed evidence published in respected Science Journals. I take scientific literature and peer-reviewed evidence seriously, you read blogs and pseudoscience think tanks. Edited December 18, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker
ERayR Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 *Shrug* I certainly didn't say that. I spent 10 years of my life simulating x-ray interaction with human tissue for cancer treatment. Parallel computation of models with scientific validation. That certainly isn't a religion. My minor was in physics. The physics of radiation is pretty clear cut, and indicate a very old earth. That's how evidence works (including the overwhelming evidence for evolution). It's a shame that evidence is ignored in the climate arena. Another 20 years or so should fix that. Except for those who have erected a false god. Yes but did you do any real science?
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Yes but did you do any real science? Here is an example of a real scientific research, it is not a google search for blogs. Edited December 18, 2014 by MormonFreeThinker
Bart Burk Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Just thought some might be interested in this article on the massive incorrect press coverage of Pope Francis' views on evolution... http://time.com/3545844/pope-francis-evolution-creationism/?xid=newsletter-brief As 2013 Time Magazine Person of the Year....he is trying to implement some positive changes including transparent church accounting and less pomp and ceremony...while sticking to the church's stance on the definition of marriage etc. worth reading if you missed it... http://poy.time.com/2013/12/11/pope-francis-the-choice/ Just information....wbThis Pope seems pretty good at screwing everything up. Cuba is the latest example -- the Castros are still in charge with no democratic reforms and no human rights. I find whenever this Pope gets involved in politics he generally takes the wrong side.
The Nehor Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 This Pope seems pretty good at screwing everything up. Cuba is the latest example -- the Castros are still in charge with no democratic reforms and no human rights. I find whenever this Pope gets involved in politics he generally takes the wrong side.Isolating them for the last few decades did not work. I am sure if we just keep them isolated a little longer the whole thing will work itself out.
The Nehor Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Pope Francis has been a major inspiration to a large group of non Catholics. He is the one religious leader to be able on an international pulpit to capture media attention in a manner which may actually rekindle interest in religion by those currently bein repulsed by it. The world has needed a religious leader who could rekindle the average person's interest in religion without also inspiring hate or violence, now it has one.He does not seem to be kindling much interest in religion. He is focusing on secular issues. Admittedly religious leaders do need to do this to a degree but I hear little religion out of him. I have a hard time seeing people joining churches in droves because of agreement on climate change. He might win allies but I doubt that kind of preaching will win converts. 2
saemo Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 I see it differently. I see not taking sides, but encouraging the removal of barriers to peace.
Bart Burk Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Isolating them for the last few decades did not work. I am sure if we just keep them isolated a little longer the whole thing will work itself out.Rewarding Cuba without getting any promises of democracy and human rights is the wrong thing to do. We don't need them. They need us especially with Venezuela's and Russia's economies imploding. The Pope should have been talking about democracy and human rights with the Castros -- the Castros aren't going to change anything on their own. They can trade with every other nation in the world, yet their economy is still a basket case. The last thing we need to be doing is giving them a lifeline. This Pope is simply an embarrassment.
The Nehor Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Rewarding Cuba without getting any promises of democracy and human rights is the wrong thing to do. We don't need them. They need us especially with Venezuela's and Russia's economies imploding. The Pope should have been talking about democracy and human rights with the Castros -- the Castros aren't going to change anything on their own. They can trade with every other nation in the world, yet their economy is still a basket case. The last thing we need to be doing is giving them a lifeline. This Pope is simply an embarrassment.Removing a crippling embargo is not a reward. It is just back to business as usual. We thought we could cow them into submission with it. It failed. Ending the embargo and allowing the resumption of trade with the attendant sharing of cultures is more likely to bring democracy then hoping that another few decades of placid isolation will break them and convince them that the people who have cut them off from the world are right and they should emulate us. We lose face when the embargo ends because it failed. Saving political face does not justify continuing a failing policy.
Bart Burk Posted December 18, 2014 Posted December 18, 2014 Removing a crippling embargo is not a reward. It is just back to business as usual. We thought we could cow them into submission with it. It failed. Ending the embargo and allowing the resumption of trade with the attendant sharing of cultures is more likely to bring democracy then hoping that another few decades of placid isolation will break them and convince them that the people who have cut them off from the world are right and they should emulate us. We lose face when the embargo ends because it failed. Saving political face does not justify continuing a failing policy.The Washington Post says it better than I can:http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-obama-administration-extends-the-castro-regime-in-cuba-a-bailout-it-doesnt-deserve/2014/12/17/a25a15d4-860c-11e4-9534-f79a23c40e6c_story.html?hpid=z3
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