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Ballard To Women: "don't Talk Too Much" -- A Joke?


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Given the fact that I've heard Elder Ballard give the same advice, in the same context, to male leaders in the Church I think most people here are reading it wrong.

 

That you will let your voices be heard, we cannot, we cannot meet our destiny as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in preparing this world for the 2nd coming of the Savior of the world without the support and the faith and the strength of the women of this church. We need you. We need your voices. They need to be heard. They need to be heard in your community, in your neighborhoods, they need to be heard within the ward council or the branch council. Now don’t talk too much in those council meetings, just straighten the brethren out quickly and move the work on. We are building the kingdom of God.

 

When he came to Phoenix to go over missionary coordination meeting and hastening the work in the ward council he told the Bishops, Ward Mission Leaders, and Stake Presidents from the area to ensure that they (the collective membership in the meeting) don't spend to much time talking, but make assignments and "move the work on", the same phrase he uses here. He's not trying to muzzle women here, he's trying to urge those in ward council to ensure that their time is spent effectively during meetings.

 

Hal, that does not fit within the agenda to make the leaders of the Church of Jesus Christ appear as sexist neanderthals.  It is does not fit the agenda of an overwhelming desire to play victim by those that seek to promote a destructive agenda regardless of the "topic du jour".  

 

"You" said it; I am offended; and you are wrong!  You must change, you must adjust to meet my needs, my desires, my wants.  It is all about me; why does everyone always forget that this universe is only about "me".  Some actually think my personal desires should not be the only thing in the universe of value!?!

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When he came to Phoenix to go over missionary coordination meeting and hastening the work in the ward council he told the Bishops, Ward Mission Leaders, and Stake Presidents from the area to ensure that they (the collective membership in the meeting) don't spend to much time talking, but make assignments and "move the work on", the same phrase he uses here. He's not trying to muzzle women here, he's trying to urge those in ward council to ensure that their time is spent effectively during meetings.

 

I have a huge aversion to "meetings", and am always very hesitant to accept a calling that has a high incidence of planning "meetings".  I've certainly never attended a presidency meeting or other council meeting that I thought was too short, so if Elder Ballard has given the same counsel to the men, I heartily support it.

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I have a huge aversion to "meetings", and am always very hesitant to accept a calling that has a high incidence of planning "meetings".  I've certainly never attended a presidency meeting or other council meeting that I thought was too short, so if Elder Ballard has given the same counsel to the men, I heartily support it.

 

I always find it strange that some people want to go to more planning meetings.  I think there must be something wrong with them. Here we have a group that obviously feels that motherhood, their work life outside the home, their friends, keeping physically fit, taking care of chores, taking care of other church responsibilities is just not enough; they feel compelled to attend more meetings and worse; they are offended if anyone else would like to keep the meeting short.  

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I always find it strange that some people want to go to more planning meetings. I think there must be something wrong with them. Here we have a group that obviously feels that motherhood, their work life outside the home, their friends, keeping physically fit, taking care of chores, taking care of other church responsibilities is just not enough; they feel compelled to attend more meetings and worse; they are offended if anyone else would like to keep the meeting short.

what "group" are you referring to?

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