Most Women Get The Type Of Man They Dress For - March 2014 Ensign

[Rivers]

After reading much around the web on this and the reaction from the talk given at BYU-Idaho abd published in the Ensign I am of the honest opinion that although the wording is rough and judgemental in some respects I am reminded of the painful truth in our society that has sexualized women to the point where the politically correct want us to view women as sexual objects rather than sacred and holy beings created in Gods image who blessed priveledge it is to bring the gloriest gift of life into this world. I blame a lot or most of this (why not just all of it)on Hollywood and those who adhere to the politically correct fashion police. It is true that we are now conditioned in society to where the women are to appear as sexual objects and as such we have made their clothing more revealing, have insinuated that the shapely curves of a women should be shown off and used to propmote sales, promote sexual products, used provocatively to enhance ones desire for something, etc.

 

One of the pitfallss we now face because of this is that our dress codes (mostly for women) have dipped way below the Churches standards of modesty and thus below the modesty level pleasing to God. I too think that some women for the most part are trying to appeal to the politically correct standard of looking appealing to men by wearing clothing that is racey or imodest, Ialso see this with som men for the same reasons. The problem that has started at the top now has to be fixed starting at the bottom. It starts in our homes with adhering to the Lords standards of modesty and showing to the world that women can be attractive and feel beautiful, empowered, etc, by dressing according to the Lords standards of modesty. We can destroy Hollywoods persona of over-sexualization of women but it is going to have to start with each one of us in our homes.

 

From a mans perspective i can testify that there is more and more immodesty in dress standards for both sexes but definitely more in womens dress. Some of the clothes I see on women and even young girls nowdays would have never been permitted 50 years ago. I am not saying that all womens clothing is bad I am just saying that there is a danger in where womens clothing in the industry is heading. its being fueld in large part by Hollywood and the politically correct who are trying to use the womens body as a sexual object as a means of selling product, selling fame, etc. The basic commercialization of the womens body. Its wrong and we should do something about it.

What I find interesting is that the sexualizing of women is often seen as women empowerment. The singer Beyoncé and other female musicians are supposedly champions of women empowerment while they spend there music videos dancing around practically naked.

I find it to be a strange phenomenon.

[Rivers]

I think that's the point that most people are missing.  The problem isn't having dress standards or encouraging "modesty" in dress.  The problem is how Elder Callister and many others teach it. 

 

For example, I wear pants and a dress shirt to my office every day.  If Elder Callister said "Now you men, be sure to wear long pants and dress shirts to the office, because if you wear shorts you might entice the homosexuals who may work nearby..."  I would express my objection to his reasoning, but I wouldn't be arguing against the benefits of proper work attire in general.

Great analogy.

[Rob Osborn]

If we are unsure about whether our dress or grooming is modest, we should ask ourselves, “Would I feel comfortable with my appearance if I were in the Lord's presence?” We might ask ourselves a similar question about our language and behavior: “Would I say these words or participate in these activities if the Lord were present?” Our honest answers to these questions may lead us to make important changes in our lives. Prophets have always counseled us to dress modestly. This counsel is founded on the truth that the human body is God's sacred creation. We must respect our bodies as a gift from God. Through our dress and appearance, we can show the Lord that we know how precious our bodies are.

Our clothing expresses who we are. It sends messages about us, and it influences the way we and others act. When we are well groomed and modestly dressed, we can invite the companionship of the Spirit and exercise a good influence on those around us.

Central to the command to be modest is an understanding of the sacred power of procreation, the ability to bring children into the world. This power is to be used only between husband and wife. Revealing and sexually suggestive clothing, which includes short shorts and skirts, tight clothing, and shirts that do not cover the stomach, can stimulate desires and actions that violate the Lord's law of chastity.

[cinepro]

If we are unsure about whether our dress or grooming is modest, we should ask ourselves, “Would I feel comfortable with my appearance if I were in the Lord's presence?” We might ask ourselves a similar question about our language and behavior: “Would I say these words or participate in these activities if the Lord were present?” Our honest answers to these questions may lead us to make important changes in our lives.

 

I can honestly say the if Jesus (or even just President Monson) were to visit our ward on a Wednesday night, we would not play dodgeball as a youth activity.

 

Yet, just last Wednesday we played dodgeball for our youth activity.  Was this improper?

[Bikeemikey]

I think most women get the kinda of clothes they buy!

[Rob Osborn]

I can honestly say the if Jesus (or even just President Monson) were to visit our ward on a Wednesday night, we would not play dodgeball as a youth activity.

 

Yet, just last Wednesday we played dodgeball for our youth activity.  Was this improper?

I would love to play dodgeball with Christ or even president monson. Bring it on!

[Rob Osborn]

I think most women get the kinda of clothes they buy!

Yeah, and most people look at the kinda clothes we wear. We have brilliant logic. I love it.

[Bikeemikey]

Yeah, and most people look at the kinda clothes we wear. We have brilliant logic. I love it.

I don't know... This kind of thinking is really a politically correct attempt to marginalize the blind. They don't have the opportunity to look at the kind of clothes worn by women.

Where does it end?

:-)