The Nature Of The Holy Spirit

[mfbukowski]

Nice avatar -- it's rather "unreal"! but I don't see how it could not be composed of matter.

 

I think many of the other subjects that have been brought up in this thread can be viewed as having both material and immaterial aspects that warrant consideration as part of navigating our mortal probation. Some think that matters and some do not.

 

I think it's OK to "argue" or discuss in a non-contentious manner, and not necessarily to sway others to one's own point of view but to add value for those that appreciate that there is more than one way to view things. Some think that is worthwhile and some do not.

 

It's a Picasso self portrait.  I chose it for the characteristics I mentioned- to question what reality really is which was what Picasso was doing also.

 

Of course I have no problem with the discussion, but my concern is that it leads to confused thinking that can lead to serious errors by creating dogmas like substance theology, the trinity and transubstantiation.

 

I am sorry to be so pedantic, but I have devoted a good chunk of my life in getting clear from these very kind of ideas which I see as a major problem with western civilization.  Its a big deal for me, but then again I am quite odd I suppose.

 

Maybe I doth protest too much!

Edited February 15, 2014 by mfbukowski

[CV75]

Of course I have no problem with the discussion, but my concern is that it leads to confused thinking that can lead to serious errors by creating dogmas like substance theology, the trinity and transubstantiation.

I think these dogmas you listed are worthy of correction in any discussion, and I do not see it at all odd to do so.

 

What discussion on this board hasn't the potential to lead to confused thinking on any subject (and how much more often is the confused thinking a preexisting condition anyway)?

[mfbukowski]

I think these dogmas you listed are worthy of correction in any discussion, and I do not see it at all odd to do so.

 

What discussion on this board hasn't the potential to lead to confused thinking on any subject (and how much more often is the confused thinking a preexisting condition anyway)?

To me, that's like saying that since everything causes cancer anyway, we might as well start smoking.

 

My goal in life is to weed out confusion not cause it.

[CV75]

To me, that's like saying that since everything causes cancer anyway, we might as well start smoking.

 

My goal in life is to weed out confusion not cause it.

I have every confidence that incorrect dogmas can be corrected through open discussion (I don't understand the assumption that everything causes cancer--certainly there are risk factors, and I don't see open discussion as the key risk factor for incorrect thinking; I rather see it as a defense).

[mfbukowski]

I have every confidence that incorrect dogmas can be corrected through open discussion (I don't understand the assumption that everything causes cancer--certainly there are risk factors, and I don't see open discussion as the key risk factor for incorrect thinking; I rather see it as a defense).

My point was that any affirmation of immaterial entities causes confused thinking because it is so entrenched in our culture.  It's like offering an alcoholic a glass of wine.  It may appear innocuous but can lead to major problems

[CV75]

My point was that any affirmation of immaterial entities causes confused thinking because it is so entrenched in our culture.  It's like offering an alcoholic a glass of wine.  It may appear innocuous but can lead to major problems

I’ll have to defer to the Moderators as to whether such discussion is off-limits. But as long as the thread is open, I would think it a great opportunity to lay out your concerns for the record.

[mfbukowski]

Well I kinda thought I did that, but if you want to talk further I am game.

 

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